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leaferikson
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Location: Bothell Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2015 Posts: 382
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I'm building an SBR once form 1 submissions are open again and I was thinking of going 300 BLK since I wanted a <8" barrel. I won't be suppressing it anytime soon, should I just stick with 5.56?
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Mon May 30, 2016 5:17 pm |
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DSynger
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Location: Kansas City Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 Posts: 2790
Real Name: Brad
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I've got a 300 blk pistol, that I'm in the process of suppressing and will be getting a SBR lower for it soon. 300 blk works great woth an 8.5" barrel.
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Mon May 30, 2016 6:57 pm |
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Anthony.L
Location: Federal Way, WA Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 Posts: 230
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First know that the ideal barrel length for powder burn with the 300BLK round is 8-9". Less than 8" works but not ideal.
Running a 300BLK rifle unsuppressed but with subsonic ammo will still be quieter than 5.56. I assume you plan on eventually getting a suppressor for it?
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Mon May 30, 2016 7:04 pm |
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leaferikson
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Location: Bothell Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2015 Posts: 382
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Anthony.L wrote: First know that the ideal barrel length for powder burn with the 300BLK round is 8-9". Less than 8" works but not ideal.
Running a 300BLK rifle unsuppressed but with subsonic ammo will still be quieter than 5.56. I assume you plan on eventually getting a suppressor for it? Eventually, maybe in the next 3-6 months
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Mon May 30, 2016 7:43 pm |
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Benja455
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Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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Also keep in mind that many suppressors have minimum barrel length requirements or you aren't covered if something goes wrong (presuming the suppressor company offers a warranty).
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Mon May 30, 2016 9:00 pm |
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Anthony.L
Location: Federal Way, WA Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 Posts: 230
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Benja455 wrote: Also keep in mind that many suppressors have minimum barrel length requirements or you aren't covered if something goes wrong (presuming the suppressor company offers a warranty). Good thing to point out. Also keep in mind this rating can change with supersonic vs. subsonic ammo on some suppressors. For example most pistol suppressors are rated for subsonic only with 300BLK.
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Mon May 30, 2016 9:44 pm |
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Benja455
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Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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Anthony.L wrote: Benja455 wrote: Also keep in mind that many suppressors have minimum barrel length requirements or you aren't covered if something goes wrong (presuming the suppressor company offers a warranty). Good thing to point out. Also keep in mind this rating can change with supersonic vs. subsonic ammo on some suppressors. For example most pistol suppressors are rated for subsonic only with 300BLK. Right...also good to remember!
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Mon May 30, 2016 9:58 pm |
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SFCRMSA
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Location: Lacey/Olympia/JBLM Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 Posts: 3111
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leaferikson wrote: I'm building an SBR once form 1 submissions are open again and I was thinking of going 300 BLK since I wanted a <8" barrel. I won't be suppressing it anytime soon, should I just stick with 5.56? That's an easy one, do both. When you do a form one for an SBR on an AR platform you do have to set it up in one caliber. But, you can switch uppers also as you like. I have two 300 Blackout uppers set up for AR Pistol/SBR and 3 Uppers in .223 AR Pistol/SBR. Basically I have lengths for suppressed and non-suppressed in each caliber.
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Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:48 pm |
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Mr. Q
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Location: S. Everett Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 3042
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If you want a 8" barreled pistol or sbr, go with 300blk, the ballistics are way superior to 556... I just did a crap ton of research on this the last few weeks
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Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:03 am |
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Mediumrarechicken
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Most of the time I've seen 8.5 300 barrels, they allow all the powder to be burnt off.
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:05 pm |
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leaferikson
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Location: Bothell Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2015 Posts: 382
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Thanks for the advice. I'll go with 8.5 and plan for a can in the future
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:37 pm |
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Mr. Q
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Location: S. Everett Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 3042
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does that 1/2" make that much of a difference? on the 300blk forums, most of them go 8", which is why I thought to go that route.
also, I thought with a heavy grain 300blk on an 8" barrel, the round is automatically subsonic? I've got lots to learn with 300blk...
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:51 pm |
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Anthony.L
Location: Federal Way, WA Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 Posts: 230
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8-9" is good to go. The powder is also really important especially with semi-auto. Wrong powder and you won't achieve subsonic and properly cycle the action. AA1680 is one of the best but can be hard to find.
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:00 pm |
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chipster
Location: North Bend Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2012 Posts: 319
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I have been playing with a 7" 300blk barrel from DSA. It is running supers just fine, sub unsupressed was not cycling, but that's hardly a mystery. (add can, try again)
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Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:46 pm |
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velillen
Location: Wyoming Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 Posts: 981
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Anthony.L wrote: 8-9" is good to go. The powder is also really important especially with semi-auto. Wrong powder and you won't achieve subsonic and properly cycle the action. AA1680 is one of the best but can be hard to find. I havent seen AA1680 locally but its pretty available online. Powdervalleyinc has it in stock. AA5744 is a decent alternative but thats a stick powder but it pretty much same burn rate and performance as 1680 (in my experience)
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