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You could do a 9mm PPSH?

I agree an M3 would rock, but the parts seem to be a bitch. There are some dummy guns out there built with real parts, and some other parts running around, I suppose with work a person could cobble enough stuff together to build one, but what a PITA

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99% of the receivers have been cut and cannot be welded into a working weapon.
I've looked into it.
The PPSH, though cool, just doesn't give me a hard on.

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SFCRMSA wrote:
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Have you thought about going way old school and building an SBR semi of a WWII buzzgun?


Actually a good idea. A M1 Carbine would make a great SBR if it was set up correctly with the proper stock and accessories.


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Could be cool

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Undoubtedly cool

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Kinda goofy, kinda cool

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9mm, good suppressor host

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Minus the Eotech pos this makes my pants tighter than a 12 pack and dinner at Old Country Buffet

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Hard to beat a classic designed short barreled weapon

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Because boobs

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If you want to be different and shoot expensive ammo

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Nope

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I like that they kept an extra 2" or so of barrel length on this AK. And the triangle folder seems to be the best stock for AK SBR's

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$400 worth of stamps on a 10/22

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WCA makes a 300 black out starter sbr. no stock, no handguards, no bcg, and an 8" barrel.


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.308 SBR seems a waste ballistic wise, to me.
I am leaning more toward something that can handle 9mm+p+
Since I have 5000 rounds of Winchester Ranger +p+ causing my floor to sag...

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Duke EB wrote:
WCA makes a 300 black out starter sbr. no stock, no handguards, no bcg, and an 8" barrel.

Been down the 300blk road before hunting... I wasn't overly impressed. Even suppressed.

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Because boobs

I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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bhpdrew wrote:
.308 SBR seems a waste ballistic wise, to me.
I am leaning more toward something that can handle 9mm+p+
Since I have 5000 rounds of Winchester Ranger +p+ causing my floor to sag...


It is a waste. But so is .22wmr in a pistol. I still giggle like a little bitch every time I see that muzzle flash out of the PMR-30 though. Fun is wasteful sometimes.

My first SBR was an AR. Interchangeability. It's limited by caliber but you can play around with different barrel lengths and upper setups. I thought it was nice not being totally locked into a fixed design for my first SBR. NFA is pretty much forever IMO. Either make sure it's something you really want or something you can change, but you already know that.

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Well, unlike many, I have seen what a MP5 can do in a combat setting.
It was rather impressive, honestly.
The 9mm +P or +P+ in a 10.5 barrel is pretty fucking wicked.
The .45 ain't bad either...
But, platforms in .45 are difficult to find or get replacement parts for.

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MP5's are badass. Spendy though, aren't they?

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Some clones are economical... but I am leery of their quality.

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bhpdrew wrote:
I would really like to find a decent .45 SBR.



I have the answer...viewtopic.php?f=8&t=66216

.45LC or .45ACP. Plus .454 & .460. It's screaming out everything you need. Hell it is even the brand you like. Just throw a buttstock on it and go!

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No hi-cap mag...

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Who needs a hi cap mag when you have a wheelgun you can hunt satellites with?

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kf7mjf wrote:
Who needs a hi cap mag when you have a wheelgun you can hunt satellites with?

I'm not a democrat. I can apply ballistics and logic...

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