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Final ATF-41P Rule: It's Here
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Final ATF-41P Rule: It's Here
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 Location: Eastside of Lake WA Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 Posts: 32 
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Benja455 wrote: nessnet wrote: Damn..... I (was) hoping for 4 months wait.... Now looking like summer / end of summer  The NFA Branch has a message on their phone line that just changed to say waits are now at 5 months (it previously said 4 months)...as you can see from the NFATracker graph, stuff that was submitted in mid-August is coming back now. I suspect if you submit something today - the wait will be 7 or 8 months (and growing). As we get closer to the 41P/41F deadline, the wait will likely jump to 10 or 11 months as people try to get in at the last minute. November 9th - my paper form 4 was accepted So..... (pessimistically) 6-7 months? Hopefully, stamp in May - God I hope it's not all the way to July, or....!!! I never was a patient guy. My 3 cans were 9 mos (or was it 7 mos...?) back in 2014. Sure was giddy that day I went and (finally) visited Chip. |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:45 pm |
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Location: Eastside of Lake WA Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 Posts: 32
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Benja455 wrote: nessnet wrote: Damn..... I (was) hoping for 4 months wait.... Now looking like summer / end of summer The NFA Branch has a message on their phone line that just changed to say waits are now at 5 months (it previously said 4 months)...as you can see from the NFATracker graph, stuff that was submitted in mid-August is coming back now. I suspect if you submit something today - the wait will be 7 or 8 months (and growing). As we get closer to the 41P/41F deadline, the wait will likely jump to 10 or 11 months as people try to get in at the last minute. Yea, last time (2013 / cans) I was checking nfatracker neurotically. Called the 800 no a few times too. Like it would magically change. I looked at nfatracker last week and got depressed when I saw that dramatically upward trend. |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:56 pm |
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Site Supporter   Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8285
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3 months 4 months 6 months 24 months. Oh well.
Play their game. Get your toys. _________________ Rara Temporum Felicitas Ubi Sentire Quae Velis Et Quod Velis Dicere Licet. ― Tacitus "Well, nobody's perfect." ― Osgood Fielding III |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:00 pm |
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Location: Eastside of Lake WA Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 Posts: 32
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dan360 wrote: 3 months 4 months 6 months 24 months. Oh well. Play their game. Get your toys. 3 cans in 2013.... SBR this year. Hopefully, this will satisfy my "toy" appetite (at least NFA items) for a bit. I doubt the Protect Hearing Act - or whatever it's called (removing cans from being NFA) will someday pass and I can 'over the counter' my next can.... |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:04 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8285
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nessnet wrote: dan360 wrote: 3 months 4 months 6 months 24 months. Oh well. Play their game. Get your toys. 3 cans in 2013.... SBR this year. Hopefully, this will satisfy my "toy" appetite (at least NFA items) for a bit. I doubt the Protect Hearing Act - or whatever it's called (removing cans from being NFA) will someday pass and I can 'over the counter' my next can.... It's funny many of the anti's like to toss around "sophisticated European mindsets" when promoting gun control, yet fail to acknowledge how in many of those lands suppressors are over the counter purchases, and required in many jurisdictions. Hollywood has leverage in our society. _________________ Rara Temporum Felicitas Ubi Sentire Quae Velis Et Quod Velis Dicere Licet. ― Tacitus "Well, nobody's perfect." ― Osgood Fielding III |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:10 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454 Real Name: Johnny 5
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dan360 wrote: (snip) Play their game. Or not. The ruling allows NFA items to be tracked a lot easier...without corporations and trusts to worry about...they'll have a social..fingerprints..and a pic...of everyone who has an NFA item. Registration leads to confiscation. Remember that. Shit...back in the 80s....even Red Dawn picked up on that .. _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:37 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8285
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TechnoWeenie wrote: dan360 wrote: (snip) Play their game. Or not. The ruling allows NFA items to be tracked a lot easier...without corporations and trusts to worry about...they'll have a social..fingerprints..and a pic...of everyone who has an NFA item. Registration leads to confiscation. Remember that. Shit...back in the 80s....even Red Dawn picked up on that .. So under protest it's better off to not buy what they're trying to keep you from buying? Makes perfect sense. _________________ Rara Temporum Felicitas Ubi Sentire Quae Velis Et Quod Velis Dicere Licet. ― Tacitus "Well, nobody's perfect." ― Osgood Fielding III |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:51 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454 Real Name: Johnny 5
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dan360 wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: dan360 wrote: (snip) Play their game. Or not. The ruling allows NFA items to be tracked a lot easier...without corporations and trusts to worry about...they'll have a social..fingerprints..and a pic...of everyone who has an NFA item. Registration leads to confiscation. Remember that. Shit...back in the 80s....even Red Dawn picked up on that .. So under protest it's better off to not buy what they're trying to keep you from buying? Makes perfect sense. It's against CoC to suggest or discuss 'illegal' behavior. So let's just let sleeping dogs lie. I'm getting off topic, my apologies. I would suggest anyone doing the trust route to submit a couple form 1s with whatever they wanna build in the next couple years.... there is not time limit..technically..from when a form 1 is approved and when the SBR or suppressor is 'manufactured'.. _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:25 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16044 Real Name: Steve
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TechnoWeenie wrote: dan360 wrote: (snip) Play their game. Or not. The ruling allows NFA items to be tracked a lot easier...without corporations and trusts to worry about...they'll have a social..fingerprints..and a pic...of everyone who has an NFA item. Registration leads to confiscation. Remember that. Shit...back in the 80s....even Red Dawn picked up on that .. Because they can't figure out who owns a trust/corporation after you ahem register an NFA item with them? _________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr. "...steam, artillery and revolvers give to civilized man an irresistible power." -Perry Collins |
| Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:32 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454 Real Name: Johnny 5
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kf7mjf wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: dan360 wrote: (snip) Play their game. Or not. The ruling allows NFA items to be tracked a lot easier...without corporations and trusts to worry about...they'll have a social..fingerprints..and a pic...of everyone who has an NFA item. Registration leads to confiscation. Remember that. Shit...back in the 80s....even Red Dawn picked up on that .. Because they can't figure out who owns a trust/corporation after you ahem register an NFA item with them? That requires work...and no identifiable biometric information. Fingerprint and photo is biometric info. _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
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Site Supporter  Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771 Real Name: John
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nessnet wrote: Benja455 wrote: nessnet wrote: Damn..... I (was) hoping for 4 months wait.... Now looking like summer / end of summer The NFA Branch has a message on their phone line that just changed to say waits are now at 5 months (it previously said 4 months)...as you can see from the NFATracker graph, stuff that was submitted in mid-August is coming back now. I suspect if you submit something today - the wait will be 7 or 8 months (and growing). As we get closer to the 41P/41F deadline, the wait will likely jump to 10 or 11 months as people try to get in at the last minute. November 9th - my paper form 4 was accepted So..... (pessimistically) 6-7 months? Hopefully, stamp in May - God I hope it's not all the way to July, or....!!! I never was a patient guy. My 3 cans were 9 mos (or was it 7 mos...?) back in 2014. Sure was giddy that day I went and (finally) visited Chip. Submitted via form 4 for a can and an SBR 8/5 and 8/17 Approved Dec 30th, stamps arrived 1/11 5 months. _________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it. Guntrader wrote: Huh, maybe I was an asshole. NRA Member/RSO SAF 5 Year Donor GOA Member |
| Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:57 pm |
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Location: Eastside of Lake WA Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 Posts: 32
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Submitted via form 4 for a can and an SBR 8/5 and 8/17 Approved Dec 30th, stamps arrived 1/11 5 months.[/quote] !!!!! So, Nov 9th (SBR accepted) Maybe there IS hope... |
| Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:23 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771 Real Name: John
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nessnet wrote: Submitted via form 4 for a can and an SBR 8/5 and 8/17 Approved Dec 30th, stamps arrived 1/11 5 months.[/quote] !!!!! So, Nov 9th (SBR accepted) Maybe there IS hope...[/quote] Yes, there is hope. I'm sending a Form 1 and another Form 4 next week. _________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it. Guntrader wrote: Huh, maybe I was an asshole. NRA Member/RSO SAF 5 Year Donor GOA Member |
| Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:54 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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Just called the ATF - my SBRs from August were approved on January 27th. So that's 162 days since the check was cashed (which is the "pending" date) and 172 days since everything was mailed in.
If you're being indecisive, just do it - the waits have nearly doubled since last spring and will only continue to go up in the foreseeable future. |
| Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:40 am |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52035 Real Name: Steve
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An interesting update:
http://blog.princelaw.com/2016/02/05/im ... f-atf-41f/ _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
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