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Well that sucks. That will possibly stop me from purchasing them now.


Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:41 pm
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nodott wrote:
Well that sucks. That will possibly stop me from purchasing them now.

i said the same thing after my first one. 6 silencers later with plans to buy another one in sept.

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Q: How do you make a $200 rifle into a $1000 rifle?

A: Sell it to Scott.


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I just went out and killed a bunny rabbit and shoved his skin into my ears so I will never have to listen to this again.


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Thanks everyone. Panama canal interesting, I'll MapQuest it.


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dick burgers are good.


Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:05 pm
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dj_fatstyles wrote:
nodott wrote:
Well that sucks. That will possibly stop me from purchasing them now.

i said the same thing after my first one. 6 silencers later with plans to buy another one in sept.



Jesus I wish I had your volume of money.

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Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:22 pm
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MrBiPolar wrote:
dj_fatstyles wrote:
nodott wrote:
Well that sucks. That will possibly stop me from purchasing them now.

i said the same thing after my first one. 6 silencers later with plans to buy another one in sept.



Jesus I wish I had your volume of money.

believe me when i say that i live paycheck to paycheck but i plan for the next can i want. not much different than buying a gun, you just dont get the instant gratification from buying a gun but it is like christmas when you get the call for a silencer.

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SIG556 wrote:
Q: How do you make a $200 rifle into a $1000 rifle?

A: Sell it to Scott.


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BadKarma wrote:
I just went out and killed a bunny rabbit and shoved his skin into my ears so I will never have to listen to this again.


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jdigitty wrote:
Thanks everyone. Panama canal interesting, I'll MapQuest it.


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cmica wrote:
dick burgers are good.


Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:27 pm
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I bought a can and started the NFA prosses 5 weeks ago. I'm going the LE sign off route. I live in Thurston county so I had to start with the sherif.
I filled out the paperwork, got it notorized, paid $10. and turned it in. I was told it would take 4 or 5 weeks. 5 weeks passed a couple of days ago so today I called to check on it. After the background check came back the paperwork was put in the wrong pile so it wasnt touched. I was told about another week, then I can send it with a check to the ATF. I'm hopeing I'll have this can by spring when I go shoot sage rats.

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My check cleared on June 16 - got notice that the stamp arrived November 16.


Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:43 am
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6 months. I might have mine before spring ground squirls :bigsmile:

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Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:49 pm
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Check cashed on 12/7/12 - Stamp signed on 6/11/13 - arrived at dealer on 6/20/13.


Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:51 pm
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Just for record purposes. Pending date 11/27/12 stamp arrived at dealer 5/29/13.

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Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:52 pm
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I've got another one coming up where the check cashed at the end of December(?29th). It will be interesting to see how long that one takes.


Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:18 pm
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I was asked to write up something on making an SBR. I am doing my AR-15 like this;

Most of the ATF form 1 is like that for a silencer. In this case I'm the original manufacturer of a SBR made from a rifle. I will use the same serial number and model name engraved on the lower receiver.

4a Randy Bragge 123 1st Street Bremerton WA 98756
4b short barreled rifle
4c 30 caliber
4d T-15 (same as engraved)
4e 12 inches
4f 30 inches (this is with stock fully extended or unfolded)
4g 47197719 (same as engraved by rifle maker)
4h Can be N/A, but I normally put name, city, state, serial # model and caliber
4i Enhance firearm collection (can be nearly any reason)

The rest is the same as an ATF form 1 for a silencer. I heard the ATF used to accept "multi" for block 4c and block 4e, but now they want the actual caliber and length. It is okay to change the caliber and length, but I'm told that you should be able to re-configure it to the original specs.

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I'll engrave it myself with my pencil engraver or bring it to a gun smith. either way the engraving needs to be at least .003 inches deep and at least 1/16th inches high. The pics show letters about 1/8th in high. As you can see there is much more room to engrave on the side of the mag well than the front. This is also why most people chose a short trust name. I photoshopped the serial number shown. :)

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Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:34 pm
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Thanks for the info Randy, i wasn't having much luck on finding the guidelines for the engraving.

I've read some back and forth on engraving abreviation. For example: if the name is John Smith Gun Trust, you can shorten it to J. Smith Trust, or J. Smith Gun Trust. Others say it must match your trust document letter for letter.

My trust has my full name, I would like to only engrave the first letter to shorten it.

Any knowledge you can share on the subject?


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Randy do you know if the cheap Harbor Freight electropencils are generally adequate to engrave to the ATF specs?


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I will post my experience start to finish here:
Jan 5th: Went to Cascade Arms, and put a down payment on a AAC 762 SD, and an adapter for my Sig Sauer 556xi “Russian”. Cost $650 for can, $84 for the adapter, and $66 for the sales tax. Total $815. Add $200 for tax stamp, and $97 for trust. $1097

Jan 5th: Went online at Northwest Gun Law Group, and purchased a Bronze Trust for $97.

Jan 10th: Received Bronze Trust hard copy.

Jan 14th. Trust Notarized, and Trust dropped off at Cascade Arms.

Advised that when actual can comes in that I will provide $200 check for tax stamp. (Best way to see that it was cashed to prove ATF received).

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