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Franklin Armory Reformation (11.5" non-SBR firearm)
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 Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367 
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New product from Fraklin Armory, people's minds are melting trying to figure out how it's legal. Will be revealed at Shot Show.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/0 ... ike-thing/  |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:14 pm |
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Site Supporter   Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28187 Real Name: Ace Winky
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This is blowing up FB right now. What's the gig?
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| Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:28 pm |
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Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367
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Pablo wrote: This is blowing up FB right now. What's the gig? No one knows, somehow they wiggled a loophole through the legaleze. Needless to say, I'm intrigued. |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:29 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28187 Real Name: Ace Winky
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Interesting no doubt
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:32 pm |
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 Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8564 Real Name: Curtis
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It's probably a rifle/shotgun hybrid firearm that does not meet the federal definition of either one. I like the innovation, and the middle finger to the feds, but I could never see myself buying one when I can build an AR pistol in whatever caliber I want. The lack of a shoulder stock is just not a big enough deal, especially with all these "braces" out there now that serve the same purpose (I know, I know...not suppose to talk about that).
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| Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:34 pm |
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In Memoriam  Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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Word twisting.
I think the clues lie in "shotgun below 0.5" with a rifled barrel." Or a smoothbore 'rifle'? _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:56 pm |
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Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367
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Guntrader wrote: Word twisting. I think the clues lie in "shotgun below 0.5" with a rifled barrel." Or a smoothbore 'rifle'? Lots of people are speculating that it's a smoothbore or that the rifled portion forward of the chamber is threaded on as a "muzzle device". I personally think a smoothbore is unlikely but you never know. Another theory is that rifles are defined as having one shot per trigger function and this has the Franklin Armory binary trigger. I don't know the law well enough to know if either of these are plausible. I'm just hoping for a game changer. |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:09 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Mount Vernon Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 Posts: 1549 Real Name: Areyouthreateningme
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sreyemj wrote: Guntrader wrote: Word twisting. I think the clues lie in "shotgun below 0.5" with a rifled barrel." Or a smoothbore 'rifle'? Lots of people are speculating that it's a smoothbore or that the rifled portion forward of the chamber is threaded on as a "muzzle device". I personally think a smoothbore is unlikely but you never know. Another theory is that rifles are defined as having one shot per trigger function and this has the Franklin Armory binary trigger. I don't know the law well enough to know if either of these are plausible. I'm just hoping for a game changer. The latter would be silly, and a game changer for sure. _________________ Which is the better: a good friend, a good heart, a good eye, a good neighbor, a good wife, or the understanding of consequences? It is none of these. A warm and senitive soul which knows the worth of fellowship and the price of the individual dignity, this is best. |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:12 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Piece/Clallam Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 Posts: 10688
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maybe this will be the innovative design of the year
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| Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:27 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28187 Real Name: Ace Winky
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Hopefully our guys there won't be hungover, gorged on cake and hookers - and can actually understand and describe this magic.
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:30 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Piece/Clallam Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 Posts: 10688
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at least the free clinics open 24/7 so they can take pills for that burning feeling
_________________ Yaki's - last journey Promote a Growth Mindset. Don't let a fixed mindset not allow change for the better. pow·er trip - noun - a self-aggrandizing quest for ever-increasing control over others. |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:01 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38309 Real Name: Dan
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If it’s the binary tigger that defines it as a non-bag item, then we are still screwed in WA. Binary triggers are a no go here.
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| Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:26 pm |
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Site Moderator   Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13507 Real Name: Mike
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Massivedesign wrote: If it’s the binary tigger that defines it as a non-bag item, then we are still screwed in WA. Binary triggers are a no go here. Moreso if the binary trigger is redefined as firing more than one shot per trigger action then it's a MG and we're all screwed. Pretty sure it's a loophole between the rifle and shotgun laws making it a generic "firearm" _________________ Licensed/Bonded/Insured Hardwood Floor Installer/Finisher http://www.hardwoodfloorsnw.com/ |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:28 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Snohomish, WA Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2012 Posts: 1369 Real Name: Bo
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My guess is it's a muzzle loader that looks like an AR15.
_________________ "I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life." ~ Four Leaf Tayback |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:17 pm |
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Site Admin Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38309 Real Name: Dan
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I just read that Franklin Armory WILL have a presence at the range day on Monday.
https://shotshowrangeday.com/exhibitors ... orlisting/ |
| Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:21 pm |
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