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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12419
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So, I searched & read the first page and didn't see anything on this...
About a year or two ago, I read reviews that weren't good, as they had feed issues.
Well, in the last week, new reviews are out, and they seem favorable.
What it is, is, the 'DM' stands for Detachable Magazine. It's patent-pending.
It's a Magpul mag that holds 6 shells, with one in the chamber.
It looks intriguing, but could also be cumbersome in tight quarters.
Anyone seen one, or have an opinion?
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:43 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38291
Real Name: Dan
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Are they available yet? Remington just announced the lineup a week ago.
I’m intrigued by the Tac14DM, but not at a $600 price tag.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:49 am |
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12419
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Their website says "Buy Now", but I didn't try to load one into a cart...
I thought perhaps with them working out the kinks for two years, someone may have come across one at Shot Show or demo somewhere.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:56 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8552
Real Name: Curtis
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I think it's an interesting concept. I haven't seen any for sale anywhere, but I'm sure they'll be popping up at distributors and on Gunbroker pretty soon. Might be worth waiting to see what happens to the price before jumping on one.
In other news, Remington might go belly up. Their financial situation is dire.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:14 am |
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Stokes
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Location: Oly Joined: Thu Oct 4, 2012 Posts: 1330
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I guess I don't see the use.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:23 am |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6194
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Stokes wrote: I guess I don't see the use. This
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:37 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38291
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NWGunner wrote: Their website says "Buy Now", but I didn't try to load one into a cart...
I thought perhaps with them working out the kinks for two years, someone may have come across one at Shot Show or demo somewhere. They were not at SHOT this year, in Jan. (well, Remington was, but not the DM's). You can bet your ass they will be there next month though. Remington usually has a large demo booth at the Range day, so we should be able to give them a shot, literally.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:08 am |
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Bxc53
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Location: Lynden Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2014 Posts: 725
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Arisaka wrote: Stokes wrote: I guess I don't see the use. This Max capacity in the DM mag is 6. The 870 Express has a 7 shot tube load option.. So, fast reload would be the only advantage I can see. Outside of a war zone or Hollywood, how many times would a fast reload after 6-7 full power shells be needed?
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:12 am |
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Sinus211
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Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13477
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I wish they could find a way to make the mag tube work in conjunction with the detachable mag system to increase capacity on the tac14. 6 round mag with 3 more in the tube that load once the mag is empty would be a cool concept.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:23 am |
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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sinus211 wrote: I wish they could find a way to make the mag tube work in conjunction with the detachable mag system to increase capacity on the tac14. 6 round mag with 3 more in the tube that load once the mag is empty would be a cool concept. I was think the same thing, but with added complexity (and failure). Maybe a toggle switch? I like the concept. Then I was thinking that the mags will be expensive and of course the benefit of a tube fed weapon is no need for more mags and it can store loaded in a far more slim package. And if you learn a proper tactical reload for a 12 gauge, it's quite fast from a side saddle. Either load as you go, or if you run dry put one in the pipe from the ejection port, ready the weapon, and load from the bottom. Can be done probably marginally slower then a mag reload if you practice. https://youtu.be/Km-uP9-Vr4g?t=24https://youtu.be/kDNAlmtqbSc?t=218So, while really cool, I don't have much of a need. A fast full reload isn't high on my shotgun list of priorities.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:56 am |
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Rix86
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Location: Shelton Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2013 Posts: 5837
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Mag it's still going to be faster.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:32 pm |
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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Rix86 wrote: Mag it's still going to be faster. I can see that. Would agree for most platforms but not necessary for a pump gun. And argument can be made that it's slower, more expensive, and more cumbersome. Conversely, you could store your 870 on a loaded tube safely and indefinitely. Toss a sidesaddle on and you've got ~14 shells right there in/on the gun. No need to remember the magazine(s). I just don't see detachable mags as much of an advantage for typical shotgunning needs. On a loaded gun with 6 shells, there would be no clear advantage to the DM design. There is an arguable disadvantage as well, since the tube feeder can top off as needed. For rounds 7-12, there would be a possible minor reload advantage of maybe a few seconds. But maybe a wash if the tube feeder had been topping off. Probably only for an extended firefight, so the only real benefit would be on rounds 13+. Assuming that both have rounds available, loose or in mags. The DM requires mags, too, which may be problematic itself. No mags is a real problem. To each their own.
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:34 pm |
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Rix86
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Location: Shelton Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2013 Posts: 5837
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That mag is definitely a more cumbersome package. Needs top load and stripper clips lol
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:13 pm |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6194
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If I can't get it done with 6 rounds of 12 ga., I'm running away
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:25 pm |
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13485
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Its not cool until' it gets a chainsaw attachment
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:48 pm |
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