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 Scope lapping for precision - Anyone do it? 
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Tagging. I have a 700 ADL in .308 needing a scope

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a variation on Deadshot's method. It would seem this guy's method would introduce stress on the mount before the bedding sets.

Of note, though, is that he also beds the rings

https://gundigest.com/gear-ammo/optics/ ... ange-rifle

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I can't imagine this is necessary anymore with modern machining and QC on high quality rings, mounts, and high quality scopes. The grip of your rings is also a function of the tube of your scope. While your lapping bar might be perfectly concentric and circular, if your scope tube isn't your perfectly circular rings will still be trying to grip an imperfect scope tube.

You are also removing the finish or hard anodizing on the mounts which would make it easier to scratch or oxidize causing other issues down the line.


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Help me understand how to calculate, for my particular setup:
What is the benefit, in moa or other measurement, per unit of lapping (say, one hour)?
What is the downside risk? Can damage greater than potential benefit be done if I screw it up?
I ask to learn.


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The benefits extend to the tracking of your scope. Undue stress on the tubes can affect the tracking i.e. the accuracy of movements when adjusting the turrets for a really long shot, and then returning to zero since there is tension on the elevators from a crimped or bent tube.

This tension can/will affect the life of the elevators too, if you use them to make your long shots. (if you're using hold offs...well, then maybe you don't need those fancy turrets?)

Some of the benefits are strictly cosmetic. when switching scopes to different rifles, it may require different spacing of the rings and the old positions may show marks from where the unlapped rings dug in.

My un-learned opinions... feel free to correct.

EDIT: Try a scope tracking test. Here's one you can do without going to the range:

https://gununiversity.com/indoor-tall-t ... king-test/

EDIT 2: I made a tall target myself calibrated for 100 yards on some cardboard. It's easy cheap and fun.

You can also make a square target and see how it tracks up, down, left, right and return to zero.

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jukk0u wrote:
The benefits extend to the tracking of your scope. Undue stress on the tubes can affect the tracking i.e. the accuracy of movements when adjusting the turrets for a really long shot, and then returning to zero since there is tension on the elevators from a crimped or bent tube.

This tension can/will affect the life of the elevators too, if you use them to make your long shots. (if you're using hold offs...well, then maybe you don't need those fancy turrets?)

Some of the benefits are strictly cosmetic. when switching scopes to different rifles, it may require different spacing of the rings and the old positions may show marks from where the unlapped rings dug in.

My un-learned opinions... feel free to correct.

EDIT: Try a scope tracking test. Here's one you can do without going to the range:

https://gununiversity.com/indoor-tall-t ... king-test/

EDIT 2: I made a tall target myself calibrated for 100 yards on some cardboard. It's easy cheap and fun.

You can also make a square target and see how it tracks up, down, left, right and return to zero.

Thanks!


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