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Site Supporter   Location: bonney lake Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 Posts: 434 Real Name: Jerry 
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howa is great but and i have dropped many animals with one, that said i love savage rifles and for ladies their lady hunter series is hard to beat. the wifey loves hers and has been insanely accurate with bothe her 243 for deer and 7mm rem mag for elk
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Site Supporter  Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17841 Real Name: Chuck
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Savage 11/111 combo is a great starter set-up.
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Site Supporter  Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2950 Real Name: Rob
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Ruger American triggers are nice and the OOB accuracy is nice but those plastic stocks are an embarrassment. The magazine indexes on the stock and not the action so there are feeding problems if the stock is not properly torqued to spec.
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| Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:02 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6818 Real Name: Matt
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I love my new Savage, tons of aftermarket support and it would be easy to turn into anything for the rest of your life. Barrel changes aren't much more difficult than an AR. 400 bucks, 100 dollar rebate right now.
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| Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:36 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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The 6.5 Creedmore is a must buy for a hunter brand new to bolt guns so you can squeeze out that minuscule extra precision accuracy on your 800 yard kill shot on that majestic elk.
And you'll appreciate the hunt more when you pay more for your gear, and have to work just a little harder to find the ammo at the local stores when you forget to pack it on your African hunt, or simply borrow the .270 that someone else brought ... Or, you can simply join common wisdom and get a gun that does the same thing, in a far more common caliber, and take realistic 100-200 yard shots. Over on TOS here's an informal poll among hunters when asked what the average distance of their deer hunting shots. ~95% said under 150 yards with most being under 100 yards. Unless you simply cannot get closer, most hunters will tell you an ethical shot is at under 200 or 300 yards max. And at those ranges, a 7mm, .270, or .308, or .3006 or other very common deer calibers will be probably your best choices due to cost and commonality. And for the wife, I'd encourage a .270. Flatter and softer shooting and a bit more range than the .308, for those elk hunts, if there's any canyon shooting involved. As for caliber, that's Ford v. Chevy round #1. Ding ding. 6.5 Creedmore will literally do nothing for you but bleed your wallet. https://thefiringline.com/forums/showth ... p?t=266313 https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thread ... nce.75239/ As for platform, it's Ford v. Chevy round #2. Ding ding. Savage, Howa, Tikka, Ruger, and on and on and on. There's probably not a hair of difference in most, so it comes down to preference. Fixed or detachable mags, type and location of safety, bedded or not, etc. Much easier on the wallet as lightly used deer rifles turn for sale almost daily at deep discounts off retail. Probably every day you can find a barely used deer rifle on Armslist for 75% {off} - this meant to read 75% of retail, meaning 25% discount]. _________________ I defend the 2A. US Army Combat Veteran and Paratrooper: OIF Veteran. BSM and MSM recipient. NRA Lifetime. Entertainment purposes only. I'm a lawyer, but have not offered you legal advice. Last edited by leadcounsel on Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:36 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
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In Memoriam  Location: Snohomish Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 Posts: 1587 Real Name: Dan
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leadcounsel wrote: The 6.5 Creedmore is a must buy for a hunter brand new to bolt guns so you can squeeze out that minuscule extra precision accuracy on your 800 yard kill shot on that majestic elk. And you'll appreciate the hunt more when you pay more for your gear, and have to work just a little harder to find the ammo at the local stores when you forget to pack it on your African hunt, or simply borrow the .270 that someone else brought ... Or, you can simply join common wisdom and get a gun that does the same thing, in a far more common caliber, and take realistic 100-200 yard shots. Over on TOS here's an informal poll among hunters when asked what the average distance of their deer hunting shots. ~95% said under 150 yards with most being under 100 yards. Unless you simply cannot get closer, most hunters will tell you an ethical shot is at under 200 or 300 yards max. And at those ranges, a 7mm, .270, or .308, or .3006 or other very common deer calibers will be probably your best choices due to cost and commonality. And for the wife, I'd encourage a .270. Flatter and softer shooting and a bit more range than the .308, for those elk hunts, if there's any canyon shooting involved. As for caliber, that's Ford v. Chevy round #1. Ding ding. 6.5 Creedmore will literally do nothing for you but bleed your wallet. https://thefiringline.com/forums/showth ... p?t=266313 https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thread ... nce.75239/ As for platform, it's Ford v. Chevy round #2. Ding ding. Savage, Howa, Tikka, Ruger, and on and on and on. There's probably not a hair of difference in most, so it comes down to preference. Fixed or detachable mags, type and location of safety, bedded or not, etc. Much easier on the wallet as lightly used deer rifles turn for sale almost daily at deep discounts off retail. Probably every day you can find a barely used deer rifle on Armslist for 75% off retail. Im doubting that a .270 is softer shooting than a .308 in general. The .270 is based off the 30-03 cartridge which is a LA in bolt guns while a .308 is a SA. I see more powder as creating more recoil in a rifle with the same specs _________________ Eff 594 and 1639 |
| Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:12 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5505 Real Name: The Dude
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das_napeth wrote: leadcounsel wrote: The 6.5 Creedmore is a must buy for a hunter brand new to bolt guns so you can squeeze out that minuscule extra precision accuracy on your 800 yard kill shot on that majestic elk. And you'll appreciate the hunt more when you pay more for your gear, and have to work just a little harder to find the ammo at the local stores when you forget to pack it on your African hunt, or simply borrow the .270 that someone else brought ... Or, you can simply join common wisdom and get a gun that does the same thing, in a far more common caliber, and take realistic 100-200 yard shots. Over on TOS here's an informal poll among hunters when asked what the average distance of their deer hunting shots. ~95% said under 150 yards with most being under 100 yards. Unless you simply cannot get closer, most hunters will tell you an ethical shot is at under 200 or 300 yards max. And at those ranges, a 7mm, .270, or .308, or .3006 or other very common deer calibers will be probably your best choices due to cost and commonality. And for the wife, I'd encourage a .270. Flatter and softer shooting and a bit more range than the .308, for those elk hunts, if there's any canyon shooting involved. As for caliber, that's Ford v. Chevy round #1. Ding ding. 6.5 Creedmore will literally do nothing for you but bleed your wallet. https://thefiringline.com/forums/showth ... p?t=266313 https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thread ... nce.75239/ As for platform, it's Ford v. Chevy round #2. Ding ding. Savage, Howa, Tikka, Ruger, and on and on and on. There's probably not a hair of difference in most, so it comes down to preference. Fixed or detachable mags, type and location of safety, bedded or not, etc. Much easier on the wallet as lightly used deer rifles turn for sale almost daily at deep discounts off retail. Probably every day you can find a barely used deer rifle on Armslist for 75% off retail. Im doubting that a .270 is softer shooting than a .308 in general. The .270 is based off the 30-03 cartridge which is a LA in bolt guns while a .308 is a SA. I see more powder as creating more recoil in a rifle with the same specs Disagree with the cheap used rifle theory --- hardly ever see it. Even used rifles in "obsolete" chamberings like 6mm Remington or .284 Winchester go for more $ than a budget rifle from Wal-Mart or Cabelas. Is the old rifle made better? Probably so. Sometimes those cheaper rifles come up used but you end up saving tax and maybe a little off retail. Felt recoil seems to have way more to do with bullet weight than powder burnt. I can't claim to have shot nearly everything under the sun but it seems to check out with me. _________________ "Wherever you go, there you are." |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer  Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8406
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Do you need to buy new rifles? Or do you want to buy new rifles?
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Site Moderator   Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13532 Real Name: Mike
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leadcounsel wrote: The 6.5 Creedmore is a must buy for a hunter brand new to bolt guns so you can squeeze out that minuscule extra precision accuracy on your 800 yard kill shot on that majestic elk. And you'll appreciate the hunt more when you pay more for your gear, and have to work just a little harder to find the ammo at the local stores when you forget to pack it on your African hunt, or simply borrow the .270 that someone else brought ... Or, you can simply join common wisdom and get a gun that does the same thing, in a far more common caliber, and take realistic 100-200 yard shots. Over on TOS here's an informal poll among hunters when asked what the average distance of their deer hunting shots. ~95% said under 150 yards with most being under 100 yards. Unless you simply cannot get closer, most hunters will tell you an ethical shot is at under 200 or 300 yards max. And at those ranges, a 7mm, .270, or .308, or .3006 or other very common deer calibers will be probably your best choices due to cost and commonality. And for the wife, I'd encourage a .270. Flatter and softer shooting and a bit more range than the .308, for those elk hunts, if there's any canyon shooting involved. As for caliber, that's Ford v. Chevy round #1. Ding ding. 6.5 Creedmore will literally do nothing for you but bleed your wallet. https://thefiringline.com/forums/showth ... p?t=266313 https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thread ... nce.75239/ As for platform, it's Ford v. Chevy round #2. Ding ding. Savage, Howa, Tikka, Ruger, and on and on and on. There's probably not a hair of difference in most, so it comes down to preference. Fixed or detachable mags, type and location of safety, bedded or not, etc. Much easier on the wallet as lightly used deer rifles turn for sale almost daily at deep discounts off retail. Probably every day you can find a barely used deer rifle on Armslist for 75% {off} - this meant to read 75% of retail, meaning 25% discount].  _________________ Licensed/Bonded/Insured Hardwood Floor Installer/Finisher http://www.hardwoodfloorsnw.com/ |
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 Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065 Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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dreadi wrote: Do you need to buy new rifles? Or do you want to buy new rifles? I buy new if it's still in production. _________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT. I'm going to type out 3 paragraphs and wax eloquently about a similar story in my life. Pm me if you figured it out. |
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Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065 Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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leadcounsel wrote: The 6.5 Creedmore is a must buy for a hunter brand new to bolt guns so you can squeeze out that minuscule extra precision accuracy on your 800 yard kill shot on that majestic elk. And you'll appreciate the hunt more when you pay more for your gear, and have to work just a little harder to find the ammo at the local stores when you forget to pack it on your African hunt, or simply borrow the .270 that someone else brought ... Or, you can simply join common wisdom and get a gun that does the same thing, in a far more common caliber, and take realistic 100-200 yard shots. Over on TOS here's an informal poll among hunters when asked what the average distance of their deer hunting shots. ~95% said under 150 yards with most being under 100 yards. Unless you simply cannot get closer, most hunters will tell you an ethical shot is at under 200 or 300 yards max. And at those ranges, a 7mm, .270, or .308, or .3006 or other very common deer calibers will be probably your best choices due to cost and commonality. And for the wife, I'd encourage a .270. Flatter and softer shooting and a bit more range than the .308, for those elk hunts, if there's any canyon shooting involved. As for caliber, that's Ford v. Chevy round #1. Ding ding. 6.5 Creedmore will literally do nothing for you but bleed your wallet. https://thefiringline.com/forums/showth ... p?t=266313 https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thread ... nce.75239/ As for platform, it's Ford v. Chevy round #2. Ding ding. Savage, Howa, Tikka, Ruger, and on and on and on. There's probably not a hair of difference in most, so it comes down to preference. Fixed or detachable mags, type and location of safety, bedded or not, etc. Much easier on the wallet as lightly used deer rifles turn for sale almost daily at deep discounts off retail. Probably every day you can find a barely used deer rifle on Armslist for 75% {off} - this meant to read 75% of retail, meaning 25% discount]. _________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT. I'm going to type out 3 paragraphs and wax eloquently about a similar story in my life. Pm me if you figured it out. |
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Site Supporter Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: leadcounsel wrote: The 6.5 Creedmore is a must buy for a hunter brand new to bolt guns so you can squeeze out that minuscule extra precision accuracy on your 800 yard kill shot on that majestic elk. And you'll appreciate the hunt more when you pay more for your gear, and have to work just a little harder to find the ammo at the local stores when you forget to pack it on your African hunt, or simply borrow the .270 that someone else brought ... Or, you can simply join common wisdom and get a gun that does the same thing, in a far more common caliber, and take realistic 100-200 yard shots. Over on TOS here's an informal poll among hunters when asked what the average distance of their deer hunting shots. ~95% said under 150 yards with most being under 100 yards. Unless you simply cannot get closer, most hunters will tell you an ethical shot is at under 200 or 300 yards max. And at those ranges, a 7mm, .270, or .308, or .3006 or other very common deer calibers will be probably your best choices due to cost and commonality. And for the wife, I'd encourage a .270. Flatter and softer shooting and a bit more range than the .308, for those elk hunts, if there's any canyon shooting involved. As for caliber, that's Ford v. Chevy round #1. Ding ding. 6.5 Creedmore will literally do nothing for you but bleed your wallet. https://thefiringline.com/forums/showth ... p?t=266313 https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thread ... nce.75239/ As for platform, it's Ford v. Chevy round #2. Ding ding. Savage, Howa, Tikka, Ruger, and on and on and on. There's probably not a hair of difference in most, so it comes down to preference. Fixed or detachable mags, type and location of safety, bedded or not, etc. Much easier on the wallet as lightly used deer rifles turn for sale almost daily at deep discounts off retail. Probably every day you can find a barely used deer rifle on Armslist for 75% {off} - this meant to read 75% of retail, meaning 25% discount]. Maybe when asking for advice on a long range varmint gun one should not say they are wanting a deer rifle....  _________________ I defend the 2A. US Army Combat Veteran and Paratrooper: OIF Veteran. BSM and MSM recipient. NRA Lifetime. Entertainment purposes only. I'm a lawyer, but have not offered you legal advice. |
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Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065 Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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leadcounsel wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: leadcounsel wrote: The 6.5 Creedmore is a must buy for a hunter brand new to bolt guns so you can squeeze out that minuscule extra precision accuracy on your 800 yard kill shot on that majestic elk. And you'll appreciate the hunt more when you pay more for your gear, and have to work just a little harder to find the ammo at the local stores when you forget to pack it on your African hunt, or simply borrow the .270 that someone else brought ... Or, you can simply join common wisdom and get a gun that does the same thing, in a far more common caliber, and take realistic 100-200 yard shots. Over on TOS here's an informal poll among hunters when asked what the average distance of their deer hunting shots. ~95% said under 150 yards with most being under 100 yards. Unless you simply cannot get closer, most hunters will tell you an ethical shot is at under 200 or 300 yards max. And at those ranges, a 7mm, .270, or .308, or .3006 or other very common deer calibers will be probably your best choices due to cost and commonality. And for the wife, I'd encourage a .270. Flatter and softer shooting and a bit more range than the .308, for those elk hunts, if there's any canyon shooting involved. As for caliber, that's Ford v. Chevy round #1. Ding ding. 6.5 Creedmore will literally do nothing for you but bleed your wallet. https://thefiringline.com/forums/showth ... p?t=266313 https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thread ... nce.75239/ As for platform, it's Ford v. Chevy round #2. Ding ding. Savage, Howa, Tikka, Ruger, and on and on and on. There's probably not a hair of difference in most, so it comes down to preference. Fixed or detachable mags, type and location of safety, bedded or not, etc. Much easier on the wallet as lightly used deer rifles turn for sale almost daily at deep discounts off retail. Probably every day you can find a barely used deer rifle on Armslist for 75% {off} - this meant to read 75% of retail, meaning 25% discount]. Maybe when asking for advice on a long range varmint gun one should not say they are wanting a deer rifle.... Maybe, just maybe I'll be hunting deer and taking out coyotes...i know it's hard to wrap your head around it but yeah..not once did I ask for help on a caliber _________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT. I'm going to type out 3 paragraphs and wax eloquently about a similar story in my life. Pm me if you figured it out. |
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What a great conversation. Maybe try NOT being shitty for a while...?
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21376 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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MadPick wrote: What a great conversation. Maybe try NOT being shitty for a once...?  _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
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