"Designed" is the problem. "Start with an 870 reciever" means the original design is classic shotgun.

Design intent is critical. When push comes to shove lawyers and courts will come to this point about design intent - particularly of the reciever.

One of these days we will get SCOTUS with justices that resolve "infringed" and the whole facade (NFA, GCA, incorpiration) will crumble. Until then choose wisely and vote, contribute and agitate/inform.

The design intent was to make a Title I Firearm that happens to be a 12 gauge, so no problem whatsoever. Carry on.

Exactly. Anybody who wants to discuss their interpretations on firearm law, please see the above thread. For those who want to stroke Mash's.... ego. for his new tiny purchase, continue on this thread.

Personally, I admire any addition to the collection of the pewpew variety.

Feel free to stroke my... hum ego anytime.

Friend bought one recently and we went out to shoot it. I'll pass and keep a stock.

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Well it's awesome and I'd love to have one.

Please give us an honest review of how it shoots. I've been on the fence for a long time thinking it's just too impractical and not enough capacity to make it worth the effort.

Are you at I'm going shooting Thursday afternoon at Evergreen Sportsman's if you'd like to come?

And if nothing else it's 26 1/3 inches of boom stick for when shit goes bump in the night.

Kudos to Shockwave for figuring out the loophole (I give no credit to Mossberg or Remington). Having held the Mossberg, I'll pass. I think they're kind of the Thunder Five/Taurus Judge or PMR30 of the time...a gun everyone must have and then quickly figure out there isn't a good use for it that other guns don't do way better. At least the OEMs are making enough to meet demand, mostly.

I posted elsewhere I wanted a Vepr Shockwave but we now know how likely that's going to be.

Whoa whoa whoa, the PMR-30 was and still is one of my favorite all time pistols. Accurate, light recoil, 30 round mag. I guess an FN 5.7 fits the same category but the PMR is significantly cheaper to shoot. Not aware of another gun with the same capacity and accuracy that shoots way better. Is there such a thing?

Nice! I want one but, I ain't stroking nothing of Mashman's..

Thank god. Finally a photo where the persons feet were hidden.. thank god for your beer belly, I don't think I could deal with another photo of that nasty ass toe of yours

Best thing I've read all day.

A wrist buster!!!!