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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8373
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See if he knows how many 30 caliber clips it takes to disperse 30 bullets in half a second.
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:42 pm |
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12963
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dreadi wrote: See if he knows how many 30 caliber clips it takes to disperse 30 bullets in half a second.
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:48 pm |
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badclam
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Location: SUNNY SW WA COAST NEAR ILWACO Joined: Sat Nov 12, 2011 Posts: 1134
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mlater wrote: Yeah, I figured he was off his rocker. He was trying to convince me he had called and talk to someone and they confirmed it. I'm betting there was some big miscommunication happening either in his asking or maybe some ignorance on the part of the person answering. I wonder if he said auto-loading or something like that and the person took that to be fully automatic. Yes, the art or reading, and the genetics for common sense are becoming a thing of the past. Almost everywhere that sells hunting accessories gives out free WA. State hunting regulations that clearly define what can be used for what and when. It's also on line, but it's too easy to look at the State regulations. We must instead get a bunch of opinions by uninformed halfwits, present company excluded!
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:31 am |
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Unicorn
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 Posts: 2604
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WaJim wrote: Well seeing the MSM pretty much defines everything but bolt action a full auto then I can understand his confusion. From the hunter ED page St of WA. https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/st ... 700046649/All rifles must have a minimum barrel length of 16 inches.Individuals wishing to buy a rifle from a licensed firearms dealer must be a minimum of 18 years of age. Minors under 18 years of age may possess a firearm if they are in attendance at a hunter safety course, are hunting or trapping under a valid license, or meet one of the other exceptions provided by law. Rifles used to hunt big game should be sufficiently powerful for the game being hunted. Centerfire rifles used to hunt big game (except cougar) in Washington must be a minimum of .24. All fully automatic firearms are illegal for hunting.That's kind of interesting. You can't hunt with a SBR .300 Blackout, but you can with a .300 Blackout pistol with the same 8 inch barrel. Same with a SBR lever action in .357 mag or .44 mag, and a revolver or the Mare's Leg in either caliber. Seems backwards.
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:20 pm |
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
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Unicorn wrote: WaJim wrote: Well seeing the MSM pretty much defines everything but bolt action a full auto then I can understand his confusion. From the hunter ED page St of WA. https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/st ... 700046649/All rifles must have a minimum barrel length of 16 inches.Individuals wishing to buy a rifle from a licensed firearms dealer must be a minimum of 18 years of age. Minors under 18 years of age may possess a firearm if they are in attendance at a hunter safety course, are hunting or trapping under a valid license, or meet one of the other exceptions provided by law. Rifles used to hunt big game should be sufficiently powerful for the game being hunted. Centerfire rifles used to hunt big game (except cougar) in Washington must be a minimum of .24. All fully automatic firearms are illegal for hunting.That's kind of interesting. You can't hunt with a SBR .300 Blackout, but you can with a .300 Blackout pistol with the same 8 inch barrel. Same with a SBR lever action in .357 mag or .44 mag, and a revolver or the Mare's Leg in either caliber. Seems backwards. Yeah I guess that's what we get thinking the people at the D.F.W. writing the Hunting Rules and Regs actually know anything about Firearms or ...Hunting, for that matter. It's just another State/Federal job.... Our Governor doesn't belong in the employment slot he currently holds either.
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:42 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Remember when the regs were drafted SBR didn't exist. Things have changed, and FW needs to change also. I'm thinking of taking my 300 BO pistol out hunting this year.
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:14 pm |
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Guntrader
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:30 pm |
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340
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WaJim wrote: Well seeing the MSM pretty much defines everything but bolt action a full auto then I can understand his confusion. From the hunter ED page St of WA. https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/st ... 700046649/All rifles must have a minimum barrel length of 16 inches.Individuals wishing to buy a rifle from a licensed firearms dealer must be a minimum of 18 years of age. Minors under 18 years of age may possess a firearm if they are in attendance at a hunter safety course, are hunting or trapping under a valid license, or meet one of the other exceptions provided by law. Rifles used to hunt big game should be sufficiently powerful for the game being hunted. Centerfire rifles used to hunt big game (except cougar) in Washington must be a minimum of .24. All fully automatic firearms are illegal for hunting.That is incorrect! There is no such law about barrel length other than for PISTOL, it must have a minimum 4" barrel. The only reference to word length in the regs are for pistol barrel, bow draw length and then antler measurements. Page 83 of the 2017 regs. http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01903/wdfw01903.pdfCode: Modern Firearm Regulations Rifles: Big game, except cougar, must be hunted with a minimum of .24 caliber (6mm) centerfire rifle. Cougar may be hunted with .22 caliber centerfire rifle. Rimfire rifles are not legal for big game. The study guide is out of date or someone just made up their own information when designing it, the regs also no longer say sufficiently powerful, they specifically state the minimum caliber. I do not recall the trainers last year in Hunter Ed ever saying that either, it was specific min caliber.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:36 am |
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340
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Unicorn wrote: WaJim wrote: Well seeing the MSM pretty much defines everything but bolt action a full auto then I can understand his confusion. From the hunter ED page St of WA. https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/st ... 700046649/All rifles must have a minimum barrel length of 16 inches.Individuals wishing to buy a rifle from a licensed firearms dealer must be a minimum of 18 years of age. Minors under 18 years of age may possess a firearm if they are in attendance at a hunter safety course, are hunting or trapping under a valid license, or meet one of the other exceptions provided by law. Rifles used to hunt big game should be sufficiently powerful for the game being hunted. Centerfire rifles used to hunt big game (except cougar) in Washington must be a minimum of .24. All fully automatic firearms are illegal for hunting.That's kind of interesting. You can't hunt with a SBR .300 Blackout, but you can with a .300 Blackout pistol with the same 8 inch barrel. Same with a SBR lever action in .357 mag or .44 mag, and a revolver or the Mare's Leg in either caliber. Seems backwards. The manual referenced is out of date, it is legal to hunt with SBR per the current published Regs.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:37 am |
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
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lamrith wrote: Unicorn wrote: WaJim wrote: Well seeing the MSM pretty much defines everything but bolt action a full auto then I can understand his confusion. From the hunter ED page St of WA. https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/st ... 700046649/All rifles must have a minimum barrel length of 16 inches.Individuals wishing to buy a rifle from a licensed firearms dealer must be a minimum of 18 years of age. Minors under 18 years of age may possess a firearm if they are in attendance at a hunter safety course, are hunting or trapping under a valid license, or meet one of the other exceptions provided by law. Rifles used to hunt big game should be sufficiently powerful for the game being hunted. Centerfire rifles used to hunt big game (except cougar) in Washington must be a minimum of .24. All fully automatic firearms are illegal for hunting.That's kind of interesting. You can't hunt with a SBR .300 Blackout, but you can with a .300 Blackout pistol with the same 8 inch barrel. Same with a SBR lever action in .357 mag or .44 mag, and a revolver or the Mare's Leg in either caliber. Seems backwards. The manual referenced is out of date, it is legal to hunt with SBR per the current published Regs. Quote: Kalkomey Enterprises logo ©2004–2017 Kalkomey Enterprises, LLC. ? ? Thanks for the heads up Larry but It's only half way through 2017... Nice to know the Current Wa St Hunter Ed. Study Guide is the same as the Current Hunter Rules and Regulation Pamphlet. I guess it'd be pretty tough to change the on line Study Guide....You'd waste all that paper.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:18 am |
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mancat
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I think most of the misunderstanding comes from the fact that .223 cannot be used and so this discounts most of the popular semi-auto firearms like AR-15, and in years past the Mini-14. Most people consider anything chambered in .223 to imply a semi-auto rifle.
I wish .223 would fly for big game here but I just don't know if it will ever happen. I've considered picking up a 16" Grendel upper just for WA hunting.
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:36 am |
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SFCRMSA
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mancat wrote: I think most of the misunderstanding comes from the fact that .223 cannot be used and so this discounts most of the popular semi-auto firearms like AR-15, and in years past the Mini-14. Most people consider anything chambered in .223 to imply a semi-auto rifle.
I wish .223 would fly for big game here but I just don't know if it will ever happen. I've considered picking up a 16" Grendel upper just for WA hunting. If you are trying to center your hunting around an AR-15 in .223/5.56 for "Big Game" then you have a lot to learn about hunting.
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:24 am |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
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Had a psycho in the store awhile back that asked if he could use a .380 ACP for duck hunting. Started getting agitated, and mad when he was told no.
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:43 am |
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mislabeled
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mlater wrote: Yeah, I figured he was off his rocker. He was trying to convince me he had called and talk to someone and they confirmed it. I'm betting there was some big miscommunication happening either in his asking or maybe some ignorance on the part of the person answering. I wonder if he said auto-loading or something like that and the person took that to be fully automatic. Dumber things have come out of the mouths of those who should know better. I once had a trooper tell me that if I had a handgun in my car it had to be on my person. It was illegal to have it in my purse or in the glove box. Uhhhhh, no.
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:53 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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mislabeled wrote: I once had a trooper tell me that if I had a handgun in my car it had to be on my person. It was illegal to have it in my purse or in the glove box. Uhhhhh, no. Probably was the same trooper who arrested my uncle's friend at gunpoint for having his concealed pistol in his driver door pocket and not on his person.
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:39 am |
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