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Guidance on 556/223 AR barrel
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Site Supporter   Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340 Real Name: Larry 
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I built my 1st AR back literally a month before SH happened. It was a budget build, SAA receivers, whatever cheap 16" barrel SAA had at the time, etc. That barrel has just never shot well. I have had multiple people shoot it, run 55grn-70grn bullets over numerous loads and it is just a 4-5moa barrel. It is 1:9twist.
Looking to finally upgrade the barrel. I am not looking to spend $300 on just a barrel, but I want decent. I already have a 6.5 grendel with 18" that is my precision AR and shoots submoa. I am thinking 16 or 18", something chambered to shoot both milsurp 556 and regular 223. I do not "need" submoa, but want something that shoots well. Something I could take out yote or prairie dog hunting and hit what I aim at to 200yrds, not hit 5" left one shot and 5" high the next. Anything you guys could recommend? Brand, length, twist? Thinking the $150 range for just barrel. _________________ Talons wrote: it's too plastic, even for me. it's like old, overworked, plastic everywhere old pornwhore amounts of plastic. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:36 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Everett Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 Posts: 3421 Real Name: Ron
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For the money, I've never had a complaint about the Aero (Ballistic Advantage) barrels.
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| Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:44 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21268 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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I would take Ron's advice. He builds straight shooting ARs. (I've been lucky enough to shoot a few of them)
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| Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:48 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340 Real Name: Larry
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Recommendations on twist? I am usually shooting 55-63grn, moving toward 55grn more right now due to super common, but nice to be flexible and able to shoot heavier as well...
_________________ Talons wrote: it's too plastic, even for me. it's like old, overworked, plastic everywhere old pornwhore amounts of plastic. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:50 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Piece/Clallam Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 Posts: 10688
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never had an issue with a 1/7
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| Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:06 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4999 Real Name: Josheewa
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223 wylde in 1:8 with a 5R twist and a melonite finish would be my choice for those bullet weights. AR performance makes nice stuff. Can't go wrong with Ballistic advantage either.
http://ar15performance.com/ _________________ It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35 Divided we fall. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:20 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8562 Real Name: Curtis
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OhShoot! wrote: 223 wylde in 1:8 with a 5R twist and a melonite finish would be my choice for those bullet weights. AR performance makes nice stuff. Can't go wrong with Ballistic advantage either. http://ar15performance.com/  Take a look at Black Hole Weaponry (now Columbia River Arms), too. They make great barrels. I'm very please with mine (.223 Wylde 1:8 w/ nitride finish). You can even configure your own barrel: http://columbiariverarms.com/configure-your-custom-barrel/ Your choice of caliber, barrel length, twist rate, gas system length, barrel profile, thread pitch, fluting, & finish. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:48 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340 Real Name: Larry
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Little more than I hoped to spend, but this one looks good, thoughts?
http://ar15performance.com/inc/sdetail/38007/42476 _________________ Talons wrote: it's too plastic, even for me. it's like old, overworked, plastic everywhere old pornwhore amounts of plastic. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:41 am |
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 Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065 Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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Larue stealth. Imo the best under 250.
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| Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:30 pm |
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 Site Supporter  Location: Federal Way Joined: Fri Aug 9, 2013 Posts: 914
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Aero Precision 16" 223 wylde stainless barrel
at 50 yards with 4x scope and factory PPU 556 ammo considering what it's supposed to be (lightweight) I'm quite pleased https://aeroprecisionusa.com/223-wylde-16-mid-barrel.html?utm_source=Aero+Precision+Retail+Customers&utm_campaign=4ba89ba42c-Weekend-Special-020516-RETAIL&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fae430ccdc-4ba89ba42c-192055869&mc_cid=4ba89ba42c&mc_eid=8ee79a8e31# You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:43 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Shelton, WA Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 Posts: 1137 Real Name: Norm
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I bought a 20" stainless 1:8 twist in 223 wylde from Bear Creek Arsenal for a budget plinker and it will shoot 1MOA with factory PPU 55gr, and .75 or better with 62gr handloads all day long and I've run it back to 600 yards so far. It also shoots 75 and 77gr rounds very well, though some of the lighter 45gr ones come out a bit too hot and groups open up I noticed.
They were on sale when I bought it so I paid under $80, but they usually have deals on 16-20" barrels. Definitely not as high quality as some of the $250+ barrels I've seen, but also no where near the cost, and for my purposes (target and varmint straight pull rifle) it has worked out very well. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:19 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21268 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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OhShoot! wrote: 223 wylde in 1:8 with a 5R twist and a melonite finish would be my choice for those bullet weights. AR performance makes nice stuff. Can't go wrong with Ballistic advantage either. http://ar15performance.com/ I bet you have melonite undershorts you love it so much. _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:41 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4999 Real Name: Josheewa
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jukk0u wrote: OhShoot! wrote: 223 wylde in 1:8 with a 5R twist and a melonite finish would be my choice for those bullet weights. AR performance makes nice stuff. Can't go wrong with Ballistic advantage either. http://ar15performance.com/ I bet you have melonite undershorts you love it so much.  true statement_________________ It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35 Divided we fall. |
| Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:02 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818 Real Name: Chuck
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Just try 55gr first.
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| Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:30 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818 Real Name: Chuck
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Varmint gun: 1/8, or 1/9 twist rate for the lighter stuff. Winchester 40 gr Varmint X:
http://www.winchester.com/products/rifl ... 223P1.aspx _________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux |
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