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bld522
Location: Shooting Distance from the Emerald City Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 Posts: 26
Real Name: Bruce
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I live in a suburb of Seattle, but not inside the Seattle city limits. I'm wondering if a private business or institution can restrict my right to carry my concealed weapon when I'm inside their premises. For example, I notice some health institutions state that smoking and firearms are not permitted on their premises. I understand that they have the right to restrict smoking on or near their premises, but can they restrict me from carrying my concealed weapon when I visit them?
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:27 am |
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cmica
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Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15235
Real Name: chris
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no, worst thing comes your asked to leave, then you must
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:30 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52068
Real Name: Steve
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It is perfectly legal for you to carry on private property, even if the owner has a "no firearms" policy. If you get caught, you have not broken any laws.
However, if they catch you with a gun and ask you to leave, you must. If you don't, you can be charged with trespassing.
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:34 am |
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bld522
Location: Shooting Distance from the Emerald City Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 Posts: 26
Real Name: Bruce
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Awesome. Thanks for the info guys. I have no intention of ever flaunting my concealed weapon so I doubt I'll ever run into a problem . . . unless God forbid I have to use it. And if I do, that's a problem I'm willing to accept.
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:56 am |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
Real Name: Chuck
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In WA about the only sign that carries the weight of law is in a bar/over 21 only area.
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zombie66
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Location: Spanaway WA Joined: Wed Jul 6, 2011 Posts: 6314
Real Name: Hugo Stiglitz
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Don't forget Federal buildings
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:14 pm |
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8565
Real Name: Curtis
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MadPick wrote: It is perfectly legal for you to carry on private property, even if the owner has a "no firearms" policy. If you get caught, you have not broken any laws.
However, if they catch you with a gun and ask you to leave, you must. If you don't, you can be charged with trespassing. This right here...+1 bld522 wrote: I have no intention of ever flaunting my concealed weapon so I doubt I'll ever run into a problem . . . unless God forbid I have to use it. And if I do, that's a problem I'm willing to accept. Another +1...better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:18 pm |
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hartcreek
Location: Union Gap Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 Posts: 1723
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There is another sign that carries weight in Washington and that is the sign that is supposed to be posted at the entrance to the mental ward and the hospital.
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Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:30 am |
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Bennngeeee
Location: Tacoma Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2017 Posts: 95
Real Name: Ben
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zombie66 wrote: Don't forget Federal buildings Does this included people with federal contracts? Every time I have been to one of these buildings I have left my pistol in the truck because of signs, and because of security clearance issues. I just didn't want to make a deal out of it.
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Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:42 am |
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Unicorn
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 Posts: 2604
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It has the same weight of law as say a sign saying, "no sagging," or no vulgar wording. The same as if you are asked to leave a restaurant because you are getting rowdy. No laws are broken unless you refuse to leave.
This of course doesn't apply to the locations listed in the RCW that are prohibited or federal buildings.
Let's start an agument! What about universities, and university hospitals like the UW hospital. The WAC for many schools says no firearms... and here's where the argument begins. Many say it applies to everyone, many say only to students. Some say it depends on how it's worded and which school as to whether it applies to everyone or just students.
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Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:08 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
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Unicorn wrote: It has the same weight of law as say a sign saying, "no sagging," or no vulgar wording. The same as if you are asked to leave a restaurant because you are getting rowdy. No laws are broken unless you refuse to leave.
This of course doesn't apply to the locations listed in the RCW that are prohibited or federal buildings.
Let's start an agument! What about universities, and university hospitals like the UW hospital. The WAC for many schools says no firearms... and here's where the argument begins. Many say it applies to everyone, many say only to students. Some say it depends on how it's worded and which school as to whether it applies to everyone or just students. STOP IT! MY HEAD HURTS!
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16044
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Unicorn wrote: It has the same weight of law as say a sign saying, "no sagging," or no vulgar wording. The same as if you are asked to leave a restaurant because you are getting rowdy. No laws are broken unless you refuse to leave.
This of course doesn't apply to the locations listed in the RCW that are prohibited or federal buildings.
Let's start an agument! What about universities, and university hospitals like the UW hospital. The WAC for many schools says no firearms... and here's where the argument begins. Many say it applies to everyone, many say only to students. Some say it depends on how it's worded and which school as to whether it applies to everyone or just students. Depends on the school and how it's written. SPSCC allows carry. Evergreen says no to anybody, then invites the general public to enjoy it's 1000 acre wooded campus, their cops all go "Yah no. We couldn't stop CC even if we wanted to, we don't and the WAC won't stand up in court..."
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