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picjusbro
Location: Lakewood Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2015 Posts: 129
Real Name: Justin
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So, I contently go back and fourth of carrying Buffalo Bore's .38 spl +p 158 gr L.S.W.C.H.P ( https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=108) and Horandy's 125 gr .357 mag critical defense ( http://www.hornady.com/store/357-Mag-125-gr-Critical-Defense/) in my .357 magnum revolvers that I carry ( I only carry Revolvers.) I can handle both very well, but what caliber do you think is the better choice for an urban environment with 3 and 4in barrels? or do you guys recommend a different brand of defense ammo in those calibers?
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:06 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818
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Hornady .357 for EDC. .38 SPL FMJ on sale for target.
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:15 pm |
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chasehooks
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For your described environment, I'd stick with the 125 gr .357. It's the best for 1 shot stopping power (out of the 2 options). The reason I load 180gr is for hunting/hiking/bears. You can check out real world data below. http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:51 pm |
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picjusbro
Location: Lakewood Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2015 Posts: 129
Real Name: Justin
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golddigger14s wrote: Hornady .357 for EDC. .38 SPL FMJ on sale for target. I buy all my target ammo from Freedom Muntions. Haven't found anyone that beats their prices.
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:44 pm |
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picjusbro
Location: Lakewood Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2015 Posts: 129
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chasehooks wrote: For your described environment, I'd stick with the 125 gr .357. It's the best for 1 shot stopping power (out of the 2 options). The reason I load 180gr is for hunting/hiking/bears. You can check out real world data below. http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.aspWell the BB round is pretty much a low level magnum. I get about 1200 FPS out of my 4 in barrel.
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:46 pm |
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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http://www.ballistics101.com/357_magnum.phpComparing the two the .38 +p is anemic vs the .357 in terms of velocity and ft/lbs energy. No contest .357 wins. 38 +p around 250-450 ft/lbs @ 800- 1200 fps 357 around 450-800 ft/lbs and 1200- 1800 fps Huge difference. Approximately the difference between 9mm and 10mm semiautomatic.
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:31 pm |
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mcyclonegt
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It would depend on how accurate I was with either.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:23 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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mcyclonegt wrote: It would depend on how accurate I was with either. Terminal ballistics are largely irrelevant if you can't consistently put rounds on target. That being said, if you shoot both rounds well, then I suggest the .357 for the reason LC pointed out.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:01 am |
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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Yes, accuracy is a given I figured. OP said he handled both very well.
1 hit is better than 5 misses regardless of the caliber. Duh.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:43 am |
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SFCRMSA
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For my 4 Inch 686 I prefer the Winchester Silvertips in the 145 grain. 2 1/2 inch 66 I use the Winchester 110 grain 357 Magnum loads. Model 10 2 inch and Model 10 4 inch I use a 125 grain +P load.
These seem to work well for me so far all around with plenty of power within the limitations of the handgun. Is there one perfect load? We could contrast and compare a lot of ammo and a lot of guns. There is always a compromise in any caliber.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:47 am |
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MACE_Hardware
Location: Wonderland Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2014 Posts: 10
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One thing that can lock up your revolver is bullet migration from recoil. Whatever you carry, shoot all but one round in the cylinder and check the last round carefully for the bullet slipping in the case. I suggest doing this several times. The problem is more likely with a lightweight magnum like a "Scandium" 640.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:29 pm |
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picjusbro
Location: Lakewood Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2015 Posts: 129
Real Name: Justin
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Thanks for the info.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:43 pm |
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