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Goodbye, Brass?
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Site Admin   Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307 Real Name: Dan 
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Recent article from Shooting Sports USA talks about a new shell that could replace brass, and still be reloadable.
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/2/13/goodbye-brass/ Quote: Let’s skip the appetizer and get right to the meat and potatoes of a manufacturer’s claims for a new cartridge case technology to replace the 150-year reign of brass. Here’s what Shell Shock Technologies (SST) says about their two-piece, nickel-aluminum-stainless steel 9mm Luger NAS3 cases: Stronger, cheaper and half the weight of brass. Greater corrosion resistance. More internal volume. More consistent ignition. +P velocities without +P pressures. Cases won’t stretch, no trimming required. Withstands 40 or more reloadings. Picks up with a magnet. Can be anodized different colors for instant ID. Read the rest: https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/2/13/goodbye-brass/ |
| Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:33 am |
 
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Site Moderator   Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503 Real Name: Mike
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That. Is. Awesome. I like how they are magnetic and can be color anodized for easy recognition. Also did you see this part about limited speed variation due to more consistent ignition?
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:45 am |
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Site Supporter   Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178 Real Name: Ace Winky
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Been seeing this posted on many sites. I am mainly amazed that these are lower cost than brass.
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:46 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood Joined: Thu Dec 6, 2012 Posts: 5446 Real Name: Sergey
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This makes me horny.
No trimming. Magnetic. Anodizing for color. Holy shit. Create standardized colors per caliber, red for 9mm, green for .45 and of course pink for .40. Repeat similar pattern for rifle rounds. Sorting made easy. Pick up made easy. Every year we hear about a new "game changer" This might actually be one. _________________ Sign up for Uber using this link and receive a bonus: https://partners.uber.com/i/1p9ey |
| Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:26 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4999 Real Name: Josheewa
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:28 am |
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 Location: Wyoming Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 Posts: 981
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Meh brass isn't going anywhere.
The cons already have me not even interested. That and cost. I can pick up 1k once fired 9mm for ~40 bucks. Which is going to be a lot cheaper than buying these new. Then add in needing to lube, use proprietary dies, and the fact if you mess up and pull the bullet the case is worthless. Be interesting to see actual real world testing and not just the info from the company. Kind of reminds me of the G2 RIP ammo and how the company made it out to be amazing and the best thing ever. |
| Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:40 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 Posts: 3696 Real Name: Kelley
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They had me at magnetic!
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:44 am |
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Site Moderator Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503 Real Name: Mike
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Well, yes and no. There are hundreds of "revolutionary" hollow points on the market. Very few case options. This might suck, or could be awesome
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:47 am |
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2017 Posts: 95 Real Name: Ben
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Pablo wrote: Been seeing this posted on many sites. I am mainly amazed that these are lower cost than brass. I am surprised and I am not. I think that that the material is cheaper most definitely, but since this is new they have to see a higher cost in manufacturing and R&D which I don't think they are telling us about of course. So I would also think they would be more expensive at first. |
| Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:16 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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Magnetic? Are you saying no more of this at the range?
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:55 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178 Real Name: Ace Winky
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Thanks for that. .......I lost one 9x25. Couldn't sleep for weeks.
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:02 am |
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Site Moderator Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503 Real Name: Mike
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No more Steve Buscemi at the pits?
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:02 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Duvall Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 4604 Real Name: David
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Policing brass at the end of a shooting session is just about Rita's favorite part of the whole deal.
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| Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:03 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581 Real Name: Mike
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At my age I can't count the number of "revolutionary, game changing, fantastic, products have been introduced to the shooting world. Some are actual hits and some are mere "fizzles". Remember the electric primers that were supposed to render regular primers obsolete? How about polymer cases? What about just plain aluminum cases? Then there's the on again, off again, back again, caseless ammo.
Me? I have enough brass in all calibers I own to reload for the rest of my life. I'll let the rest be the guinea pigs. _________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
| Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:08 am |
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In Memoriam Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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I love innovation... Love it! Magnetic, less able to be corroded -
 I am with the majority in looking forward to seeing how it turns out, and also with Mike Deadshot in waiting before purchasing. One concern that I will have for the rest of my life on any innovation is "How would this change/improvement make it easier for gun control crazies to interrupt the supply chain?" |
| Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:24 am |
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