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Honest opinions needed on firearm condition
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer   Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253 Real Name: Mark 
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What would you say if you ordered a brand new Smith & Wesson 686 from your dealer and upon opening the box, you were met with this?
    My distributor tried telling me it came from S&W in this condition. And the cost is only $732.25 + tax... _________________ "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson Last edited by 3584ELK on Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:00 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:22 am |
 
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood Joined: Thu Dec 6, 2012 Posts: 5446 Real Name: Sergey
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3584ELK wrote: My distributor tried telling me it came from S&W in this condition. Honestly, from everything I've heard, that is believable with modern Smiths. I did a bit of research before pulling the trigger on my wheel gun and even the most loyal S&W guys said to stick to their older stuff. _________________ Sign up for Uber using this link and receive a bonus: https://partners.uber.com/i/1p9ey |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:37 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Piece/Clallam Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 Posts: 10688
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If you took it home than tough shit. if you refused it than good job. get another one
S&W is hit and miss on their QC. but should work with you. might be time to get a new dealer. always check your firearm before filling out paperwork. _________________  Yaki's - last journey Promote a Growth Mindset. Don't let a fixed mindset not allow change for the better. pow·er trip - noun - a self-aggrandizing quest for ever-increasing control over others. |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:37 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253 Real Name: Mark
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Agreed, I have heard that S&W quality is not what it used to be. Of course, it is going back to the distributor. Some would say "just clean it up and keep it".
_________________ "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:43 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Everett, WA Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2798 Real Name: Snek on de ladder
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What appears to be the issue? The only thing I see is a notable cylinder turn mark indicating it was finger f'd a bit before you got it.
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| Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:55 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253 Real Name: Mark
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I had to downsize the photos a bit and so some of the detail is lost: Top photo- Trigger discoloration, trigger guard tag ripped off and stuck on the foam liner. 2nd photo: burn marks of two cylinders, indicating it was fired far more than one cylinder worth of ammo. 3rd Photo: The turn line on the cylinder and residue creeping between the side plate parting surface. 4th Photo: Powder residue in the crane and barrel area.
Looks like it was fired a bunch and then just tossed in the case. I suspect it was a demo, although the distributor denies it. I guess I am a picky SOB _________________ "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:06 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Everett, WA Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2798 Real Name: Snek on de ladder
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The trigger and hammer are mim and then case hardened which gives it that appearance.
The revolver may have had to been fired more than once due to issues found during qc, but honestly, it looks like only 2 rounds were fired to me. |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:12 am |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52030 Real Name: Steve
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I'd say, "Thank you, I love it."
_________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:59 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253 Real Name: Mark
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We'll see what Smith & Wesson has to say...
_________________ "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:52 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Tenino Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2011 Posts: 4396
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I'd so don't send me dirty, used shit for $700. That's more wear and tear than I'd pay money for if it was in the display case, good product or not. So for 7 bills ya can't pay some chuckle head to clean the shit up before it's sent out????? Doesnt sound like they are taking much pride in thier product, I'd be leary to find out later where else they cut a cheap corner
Good thing I don't care for wheel guns especially if that's the standard...... |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:56 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6214
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I would PIF that fucker immediately!
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| Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:27 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: south everett Joined: Fri Apr 8, 2011 Posts: 293
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No bueno.
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| Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:13 pm |
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