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Which gun(s) fit these criteria?
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Site Supporter   Location: Not Washington : ) Joined: Thu Aug 2, 2012 Posts: 2832 
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MadPick wrote: Used XD subcompact. Trade the manual safety for a grip safety.  IMHO |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:21 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765 Real Name: Erik
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amc82 wrote: He wants a G19 in size then why not a G 19 used gen 3 can be had for $400ish. Sent from my XT1030 using Tapatalk Because that's not 300-400... Because of the price range requested, the only thing that fits the bill new is http://www.taurususa.com/product-detail ... ory=Pistol Which is... a Taurus... That being said, it was one of the best selling guns last year and was not badly received.... I have actually fired one, and I actually liked it, was actually accurate with it. It's quite compact for the firepower. |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:21 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765 Real Name: Erik
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Actually, maybe the SD9 is a better choice actually. Not the most carryable, but since that was the lowest on the priority list...
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore ... /ID/116856 or an XD https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore ... m/ID/50334 |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:23 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Rochester, WA Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 Posts: 3761 Real Name: Mr. Idgaf
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RusoArmo wrote: mcyclonegt wrote: RusoArmo wrote: Since the manual safety is negotiable, I'd steer him away from it. Curious why you would steer a first time handgun owner away from something with a safety? I am not a fan of manual safeties. I don't think they're necessary. Most firearms have internal safeties that keep them drop safe, etc. Most important safety on any gun should be the finger. Most important safety on any gun should be the operators brain. Finger is the second most important. _________________ MadPick wrote: Without penetration data, the pics aren't of much use.
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| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:24 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Central FL Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 3207
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Since your friend is price sensitive, have him check out this site to find the best prices on things. Some local stores will price match (I know for a fact that WCA will).
https://www.wikiarms.com/guns Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:41 am |
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 Site Supporter  Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19495 Real Name: Rick
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FMK
It doesn't have a manual safety but I like mine. Made in California.   _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:41 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood Joined: Thu Dec 6, 2012 Posts: 5446 Real Name: Sergey
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jdhbulseye wrote: Most important safety on any gun should be the operators brain. Finger is the second most important. That's fair. I agree. _________________ Sign up for Uber using this link and receive a bonus: https://partners.uber.com/i/1p9ey |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:44 am |
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Site Moderator   Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13532 Real Name: Mike
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PinSniper wrote: amc82 wrote: He wants a G19 in size then why not a G 19 used gen 3 can be had for $400ish. Sent from my XT1030 using Tapatalk Because that's not 300-400... Because of the price range requested, the only thing that fits the bill new is http://www.taurususa.com/product-detail ... ory=Pistol Which is... a Taurus... That being said, it was one of the best selling guns last year and was not badly received.... I have actually fired one, and I actually liked it, was actually accurate with it. It's quite compact for the firepower.  Yeah, we don't recommend the Taurus. Home defense with a pistol of questionable quality is a bad idea. And who said the requirement was to buy new? Some great recommendations in this thread. I think the M&P9c, S&W 6906, XD compact are all great options and all available under $400. I've been seeing G19's going for $375 here and there. He'll get great aftermarket support on any of these pistols. Has he shot striker vs. hammer fired? That might help narrow it down quite a bit. _________________ Licensed/Bonded/Insured Hardwood Floor Installer/Finisher http://www.hardwoodfloorsnw.com/ |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:47 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8578 Real Name: Curtis
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Rix86 wrote: Ruger SR9c EAA Witness Compact Good suggestions, thanks. Madpick wrote: Used XD subcompact. Trade the manual safety for a grip safety. I'm a big fan of the XD line of pistols, and I suggested buying a used one, but he still wants to try to find something with a manual thumb safety first. RusoArmo wrote: surplus Glock 22, 21, 23 and SOMETIMES a 17...M&P in .40...TP9SF Glocks don't have manual safeties, and it doesn't look like the TP9SF does, either. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want .40 cal, but the M&P9 w/ safety is definitely an option. mislabeled wrote: Perhaps a used FNS-9? I just assumed it would be out of his price range, but it looks like they can be found used for $400-ish, so it's worth considering. Maybe I can get him to stretch his budget a little. Bxc53 wrote: S&W 6906 Doh! I don't know why I didn't think of that. Thanks! os2firefox wrote: what about the Beretta px4 or sig 320? The Beretta is an option, though like you said it might exceed his budget. The Sig P320 doesn't have a manual safety. DGM33 wrote: SD9VE The price is right, but it doesn't have a manual safety. Border Dave wrote: Sarsilmaz B6P, Sarsilmaz K2P, or Tristar C100 Never heard of those, I'll have to look into them. SFCRMSA wrote: Stoeger Cougar I'll check that one out, thanks. thefuryoffire wrote: Used/Police turn-in CZ75. They are out there for $375ish. Most of the used ones I've looked at are $450+, but if I could find one for under $400 I think it would be a great starter gun for him. amc82 wrote: He wants a G19 in size then why not a G 19 used gen 3 can be had for $400ish. No manual safety, otherwise he probably would get a used G19. PinSniper wrote: Taurus Millennium G2 Like you said, it is a Taurus, and friends don't let friends buy Taurus'. edogg wrote: Since your friend is price sensitive, have him check out this site to find the best prices on things. Some local stores will price match (I know for a fact that WCA will). https://www.wikiarms.com/guns Thanks for the suggestion. sinus211 wrote: I think the M&P9c, S&W 6906, XD compact are all great options and all available under $400. I've been seeing G19's going for $375 here and there. He'll get great aftermarket support on any of these pistols. Has he shot striker vs. hammer fired? That might help narrow it down quite a bit. He has very limited experience shooting handguns. I know he's fired my XD-45, M&P9 Pro CORE, M&P Shield, and probably one other handgun, but they're all striker-fired. We're hoping to go to a range (probably WCA or WCA-North) in the next week or so to shoot a few guns and see what he likes. Looks like there are a lot of options out there. Thanks for the input, everyone!  |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:16 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Snohomish, WA Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2012 Posts: 1372 Real Name: Bo
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CZ P-07 --> https://grabagun.com/cz-p-07-semi-auto- ... h2189.html
It's $50 above his price range but its worth it IMHO.  _________________ "I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life." ~ Four Leaf Tayback |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:21 am |
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Site Moderator Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13532 Real Name: Mike
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Guns4Liberty wrote: sinus211 wrote: I think the M&P9c, S&W 6906, XD compact are all great options and all available under $400. I've been seeing G19's going for $375 here and there. He'll get great aftermarket support on any of these pistols. Has he shot striker vs. hammer fired? That might help narrow it down quite a bit. He has very limited experience shooting handguns. I know he's fired my XD-45, M&P9 Pro CORE, M&P Shield, and probably one other handgun, but they're all striker-fired. We're hoping to go to a range (probably WCA or WCA-North) in the next week or so to shoot a few guns and see what he likes. Looks like there are a lot of options out there. Thanks for the input, everyone! I've got a couple hammer fired 9mm's (S&W 6906, Canik StingrayC) you're welcome to take to the range and let him try _________________ Licensed/Bonded/Insured Hardwood Floor Installer/Finisher http://www.hardwoodfloorsnw.com/ |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:09 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood Joined: Thu Dec 6, 2012 Posts: 5446 Real Name: Sergey
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sinus211 wrote: I've got a couple hammer fired 9mm's (S&W 6906, Canik StingrayC) you're welcome to take to the range and let him try  _________________ Sign up for Uber using this link and receive a bonus: https://partners.uber.com/i/1p9ey |
| Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:49 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Fairwood, WA Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2013 Posts: 1111 Real Name: Jon
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Site Supporter  Location: Piece/Clallam Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 Posts: 10688
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Taurus PT111 G2 , can use 20rd p226 mags for backup.
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| Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:10 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17841 Real Name: Chuck
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Taurus PT111 G2
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