Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:09 pm
and now today they send out this clown shoes notification.
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Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:33 pm
dreadi wrote:and now today they send out this clown shoes notification.
So typical! For YEARS after 2012 their website had 2012 dated training courses, all the way up to 2021 that I know of.
Now, this so- called SAFE system is supposed to be the cat's meow of POC systems. Hilarious that the ATF had to be the ones who noticed
the screw up over at WSP.
Incompetence seems to reign supreme in WA state government.
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:18 pm
This is all very much on purpose.
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:47 pm
Learn to start working your own from raw forgings...
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:07 pm
Diamondback wrote:Learn to start working your own from raw forgings...
Pretty sure CNC is on my list. The portable ones have come down a lot in price.
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:30 pm
TechnoWeenie wrote:Diamondback wrote:Learn to start working your own from raw forgings...
Pretty sure CNC is on my list. The portable ones have come down a lot in price.
I've long wanted to CNC a 1911, mainly so I can beef up the frame and slide according to Kuhnhausen's proposals.
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:53 pm
The crown decided that I could have my property today. I started the WSP background check on the 4th.
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:59 pm
Got my call today. What took marysville pd 24-36 hours now takes WSP 6 business days
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:38 pm
Got my call today as well. 7 business days for a pistol background check.
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:09 pm
I have a question for FFLs or employees.
I've got a gun in consignment I want to get back since it's just been sitting.
I have 3 frames en route to my FFL
And I want to buy another gun.
I've never had a delay or denial. So clean that I don't even use my social.
If I do these all in one week what's the chances of me having an issue with this new system?
I've got a gun in consignment I want to get back since it's just been sitting.
I have 3 frames en route to my FFL
And I want to buy another gun.
I've never had a delay or denial. So clean that I don't even use my social.
If I do these all in one week what's the chances of me having an issue with this new system?
Re: WSP taking over all background checks next couple weeks
Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:07 am
Most information is publicly available from WSP at https://www.wsp.wa.gov/firearms-background-division/ for everyone, you don't have to be an FFL to get it.
For example, here are their most recent communications to FFLs in December:
https://www.wsp.wa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/WA-FFL-Alert.pdf
https://www.wsp.wa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/WSP-Firearms-Background-Division-Update-December-2023.pdf
The way I get it, regardless of number of transfers and type of firearm (including former 'other' category), if the background transfer check is initiated before January 1st then you can pick up the firearm after 10 business days if no response, even if that goes to January. Current background checks appear to happen all over, may be 1 day for some, 6 or more for others. Transfers initiated after January 1st get the training requirement, the minimum 10 business days wait and no more release after 10 business days if no response. So by all means, if you have an FFL that's not closed for Christmas and you know those stores will ship fast enough, go ahead and buy now all guns you can. After January 1st if I read correctly WSP may sit on those checks as long as they please, no incentive to hurry (like there is now, if they don't get at a check fast enough the buyer can get their gun anyway).
For example, here are their most recent communications to FFLs in December:
https://www.wsp.wa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/WA-FFL-Alert.pdf
https://www.wsp.wa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/WSP-Firearms-Background-Division-Update-December-2023.pdf
The way I get it, regardless of number of transfers and type of firearm (including former 'other' category), if the background transfer check is initiated before January 1st then you can pick up the firearm after 10 business days if no response, even if that goes to January. Current background checks appear to happen all over, may be 1 day for some, 6 or more for others. Transfers initiated after January 1st get the training requirement, the minimum 10 business days wait and no more release after 10 business days if no response. So by all means, if you have an FFL that's not closed for Christmas and you know those stores will ship fast enough, go ahead and buy now all guns you can. After January 1st if I read correctly WSP may sit on those checks as long as they please, no incentive to hurry (like there is now, if they don't get at a check fast enough the buyer can get their gun anyway).