Ammo Joy is NO-GO for WA

[ViniVidivici]

No idea why, I guess they're trying to get ahead of the game on complying with whatever illegal edicts get passed here.

I ordered from them within last couple months, with no problem.

Look at this shit. When you go to their special order form, it says they'll only ship to an FFL in WA.

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[AR15L]

I'd ask them to show you, IN WRITING, what WA law they are referring to.

[MadPick]

I'd ask them to show you, IN WRITING, what WA law they are referring to.

Oh, I have no doubt that it's the one that says "anyone can sue dealers if someone gets hurt with their products." Yeah, I'm coarsely paraphrasing. It's making people not want to do gun business in WA.

Not saying that they CAN'T . . . just that they WON'T and I can't really blame them.

[ViniVidivici]

This was their idiotic reply:


"I am sorry you are upset, we are just following what our legal team has sent us about WA law changes I have management looking at this again as we speak other customers have questioned this as well, at this point we have to go with what legals is telling us


But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."


Madpick you're probably right. That rotten piece of shit Ferguson wages lawfare at will, with no consequences.

[Massivedesign]

But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."

Jeez. What did you say to them?

[skey]

But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."

Jeez. What did you say to them?

GFY?

[ViniVidivici]

But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."

Jeez. What did you say to them?

Oh, ya know, just spoke my mind, as I am wont to do in these situations.

First message, the response to which I posted, was:

"You now require shipping to FFL for WA? I've ordered from you before, never a problem.No new unconstitutional edicts have been passed here that would affect this. So why?Getting ahead of the game in order to comply with things that haven't even been proposed yet?FUCK you guys, I hope you go out of business."

After their response, I replied:

"Your best to follow laws?  You stupid idiots, there aren't even ANY laws passed regarding this, at all.  That's why I was able to go right over and order from another company, LEGALLY, with no issue at all.


Again, FUCK you guys, I hope you go bankrupt.  Do NOT respond to this email, it will be deleted.  Nothing you can say justifies this level of stupidity."

For me, this is pretty civil and restrained.

[cast_iron_plumber]

Yeah they're cowards. I got a shipment from them delivered on January 2nd, guess that'll be the last ammo I get from them.

[UpDog]

But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."

Jeez. What did you say to them?

Oh, ya know, just spoke my mind, as I am wont to do in these situations.

First message, the response to which I posted, was:

"You now require shipping to FFL for WA? I've ordered from you before, never a problem.No new unconstitutional edicts have been passed here that would affect this. So why?Getting ahead of the game in order to comply with things that haven't even been proposed yet?FUCK you guys, I hope you go out of business."

After their response, I replied:

"Your best to follow laws?  You stupid idiots, there aren't even ANY laws passed regarding this, at all.  That's why I was able to go right over and order from another company, LEGALLY, with no issue at all.


Again, FUCK you guys, I hope you go bankrupt.  Do NOT respond to this email, it will be deleted.  Nothing you can say justifies this level of stupidity."

For me, this is pretty civil and restrained.

Holy fuck. You are definitely the leader of bringing people to the table to have a discussion and sway minds. Impeccable.

[NWRed]

But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."

Jeez. What did you say to them?

Oh, ya know, just spoke my mind, as I am wont to do in these situations.

First message, the response to which I posted, was:

"You now require shipping to FFL for WA? I've ordered from you before, never a problem.No new unconstitutional edicts have been passed here that would affect this. So why?Getting ahead of the game in order to comply with things that haven't even been proposed yet?FUCK you guys, I hope you go out of business."

After their response, I replied:

"Your best to follow laws?  You stupid idiots, there aren't even ANY laws passed regarding this, at all.  That's why I was able to go right over and order from another company, LEGALLY, with no issue at all.


Again, FUCK you guys, I hope you go bankrupt.  Do NOT respond to this email, it will be deleted.  Nothing you can say justifies this level of stupidity."

For me, this is pretty civil and restrained.

Holy fuck. You are definitely the leader of bringing people to the table to have a discussion and sway minds. Impeccable.

How exactly are you going to sway the minds of people who are making up imaginary laws in order to avoid doing business with you? Theyre not going to change their minds if they're fabricating excuses.

[NWGunner]

But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."

Jeez. What did you say to them?

Oh, ya know, just spoke my mind, as I am wont to do in these situations.

First message, the response to which I posted, was:

"You now require shipping to FFL for WA? I've ordered from you before, never a problem.No new unconstitutional edicts have been passed here that would affect this. So why?Getting ahead of the game in order to comply with things that haven't even been proposed yet?FUCK you guys, I hope you go out of business."

After their response, I replied:

"Your best to follow laws?  You stupid idiots, there aren't even ANY laws passed regarding this, at all.  That's why I was able to go right over and order from another company, LEGALLY, with no issue at all.


Again, FUCK you guys, I hope you go bankrupt.  Do NOT respond to this email, it will be deleted.  Nothing you can say justifies this level of stupidity."

For me, this is pretty civil and restrained.

Holy fuck. You are definitely the leader of bringing people to the table to have a discussion and sway minds. Impeccable.

Yeah, you’re definitely a bridge builder here…

[UpDog]

But honestly we do not need to be spoken to like this when we are doing the best here to follow the laws and supply customers the best we can so you are welcome to take your business elsewhere."

Jeez. What did you say to them?

Oh, ya know, just spoke my mind, as I am wont to do in these situations.

First message, the response to which I posted, was:

"You now require shipping to FFL for WA? I've ordered from you before, never a problem.No new unconstitutional edicts have been passed here that would affect this. So why?Getting ahead of the game in order to comply with things that haven't even been proposed yet?FUCK you guys, I hope you go out of business."

After their response, I replied:

"Your best to follow laws?  You stupid idiots, there aren't even ANY laws passed regarding this, at all.  That's why I was able to go right over and order from another company, LEGALLY, with no issue at all.


Again, FUCK you guys, I hope you go bankrupt.  Do NOT respond to this email, it will be deleted.  Nothing you can say justifies this level of stupidity."

For me, this is pretty civil and restrained.

Holy fuck. You are definitely the leader of bringing people to the table to have a discussion and sway minds. Impeccable.

How exactly are you going to sway the minds of people who are making up imaginary laws in order to avoid doing business with you? Theyre not going to change their minds if they're fabricating excuses.

Do you think they don’t want money? Cussing out someone that works for probably minimal wage is not going to convince their legal team who has evaluated the risk.

[ViniVidivici]

That's silly and absurd.

To think that there is any level of silver-tongued diplomacy or verbal judo that would change the minds of weak fools like this is foolish in and of itself.

We are LONG past that point in this situation.

I don't give 2 shits about anyone's opinion of what I said to those pathetic cunts.

[AR15L]

That's silly and absurd.

To think that there is any level of silver-tongued diplomacy or verbal judo that would change the minds of weak fools like this is foolish in and of itself.

We are LONG past that point in this situation.

I don't give 2 shits about anyone's opinion of what I said to those pathetic cunts.

[UpDog]

That's silly and absurd.

To think that there is any level of silver-tongued diplomacy or verbal judo that would change the minds of weak fools like this is foolish in and of itself.

We are LONG past that point in this situation.

I don't give 2 shits about anyone's opinion of what I said to those pathetic cunts.

Holding yourself in a respectable manner shouldn’t depend on what you think of someone else. You made an enemy of someone who at a high level “is on your side”. Excellent way to change their minds and really join the “enemy”.

When I had an issue with shaw arms for a similar reason, I called and simply inquired to the reasoning why. I was told it was their distributors rules. They had the best deals in a long time and it was unfortunate to lose that access. Profit margins are slim and I wouldn’t risk my business for emotionally unstable customers that would turn on me when they don’t get their way. I think we call them Karens.