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Selling etiquette, first come, first serve?
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roscop
Location: Puyallup Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2012 Posts: 181
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sinus211 wrote: I can understand where you're coming from, especially when you get your hopes up after making a full price offer. I also agree with you that the seller should have had a clause in their ad stating that "preference will be given to package deal offers."
That said, try to look at it this way. If I'm selling two guns together and you only offer on one of them, that isn't really a full price offer on what I'm selling. Full price would be offering to buy both guns (the complete package) at asking price. In which case, it's not really an "I'll take it" since you're only offering to buy half of what he's selling.
Not saying it was right, or wrong. Just another way of looking at it. I guess I can see it, I guess I thought I had it locked up, my bad for assuming.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:44 pm |
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Sinus211
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roscop wrote: sinus211 wrote: I can understand where you're coming from, especially when you get your hopes up after making a full price offer. I also agree with you that the seller should have had a clause in their ad stating that "preference will be given to package deal offers."
That said, try to look at it this way. If I'm selling two guns together and you only offer on one of them, that isn't really a full price offer on what I'm selling. Full price would be offering to buy both guns (the complete package) at asking price. In which case, it's not really an "I'll take it" since you're only offering to buy half of what he's selling.
Not saying it was right, or wrong. Just another way of looking at it. I guess I can see it, I guess I thought I had it locked up, my bad for assuming. It still sucks to miss out on a gun you really wanted. Sorry bud, hope you get the next one.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:47 pm |
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das_napeth
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Thats ok. I told a guy id take his item a few weeks back. He read the message same day, said id pay his asking price but somehow he wont reply to me. Havent even checked to see if its still for sale. I think the wreck got to him. Even had another member ask me about what was going on as they had a deal
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:05 pm |
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roscop
Location: Puyallup Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2012 Posts: 181
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sinus211 wrote: roscop wrote: sinus211 wrote: I can understand where you're coming from, especially when you get your hopes up after making a full price offer. I also agree with you that the seller should have had a clause in their ad stating that "preference will be given to package deal offers."
That said, try to look at it this way. If I'm selling two guns together and you only offer on one of them, that isn't really a full price offer on what I'm selling. Full price would be offering to buy both guns (the complete package) at asking price. In which case, it's not really an "I'll take it" since you're only offering to buy half of what he's selling.
Not saying it was right, or wrong. Just another way of looking at it. I guess I can see it, I guess I thought I had it locked up, my bad for assuming. It still sucks to miss out on a gun you really wanted. Sorry bud, hope you get the next one. It does, but I think this is probably the exception, 99% of the interactions on here have been very positive, I'm sure another good deal is just around the corner.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:20 pm |
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PMB
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das_napeth wrote: Thats ok. I told a guy id take his item a few weeks back. He read the message same day, said id pay his asking price but somehow he wont reply to me. Havent even checked to see if its still for sale. I think the wreck got to him. Even had another member ask me about what was going on as they had a deal Didn't you do a solid favor for a guy and go out of your way to pick something up for him? If I recall correctly, you both even had a set place and time to meet, and he didn't do his part!? Some fucking people.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:23 pm |
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das_napeth
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PMB wrote: das_napeth wrote: Thats ok. I told a guy id take his item a few weeks back. He read the message same day, said id pay his asking price but somehow he wont reply to me. Havent even checked to see if its still for sale. I think the wreck got to him. Even had another member ask me about what was going on as they had a deal Didn't you do a solid favor for a guy and go out of your way to pick something up for him? If I recall correctly, you both even had a set place and time to meet, and he didn't do his part!? Some fucking people. I think ive only had that thing for a year or so. We will see if he shows to the new years shoot
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:49 pm |
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Yondering
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Along the same lines, I think there's some buyer etiquette that should be observed too. (Not commenting about the OP specifically)
A big one IMO is posting "I'll take it" so others can see that it's gone. I ran into that recently myself; a guy's ad had been posted a few hours before, with no replies, so I responded that I'd take "item xxx" and sent a PM, but the seller replied that someone else had already bought it. No fault of the seller of course, but it'd sure be nice if people take the time to post "I'll take it"
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:17 pm |
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Ops
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depends if they have integrity, don't see it much laetly
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:42 pm |
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Old Growth
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Yondering wrote: Along the same lines, I think there's some buyer etiquette that should be observed too. (Not commenting about the OP specifically)
A big one IMO is posting "I'll take it" so others can see that it's gone. I ran into that recently myself; a guy's ad had been posted a few hours before, with no replies, so I responded that I'd take "item xxx" and sent a PM, but the seller replied that someone else had already bought it. No fault of the seller of course, but it'd sure be nice if people take the time to post "I'll take it" Im just the other way. I don't like to advertise my intentions. I send PM as soon as I see something I want. Then I go pick it up ASAP. Im a buyer, not a claimer.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:58 pm |
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snozzberries
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Maybe only semi-related, but what if instead of selling something, you are renting your property? You might have several offers, and sure 1 person was first, and 1 person was last, but is the order they replied to the ad the primary method of deciding who to rent to?
I could see where you might group everybody that responds within 24 hours as "first repliers".
If you list something, and 3 people all reply within 24 hours that they all want it at the listed price, how do you pick? Whats the etiquette on getting them to bid on it? Compare it to houses. Nobody get's a house at list price.
If you want something that bad, offer more money. Maybe it will motivate the seller. In this case, it sounds like getting rid of 2 items at once was of the utmost importance.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:20 pm |
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das_napeth
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snozzberries wrote: Maybe only semi-related, but what if instead of selling something, you are renting your property? You might have several offers, and sure 1 person was first, and 1 person was last, but is the order they replied to the ad the primary method of deciding who to rent to?
I could see where you might group everybody that responds within 24 hours as "first repliers".
If you list something, and 3 people all reply within 24 hours that they all want it at the listed price, how do you pick? Whats the etiquette on getting them to bid on it? Compare it to houses. Nobody get's a house at list price.
If you want something that bad, offer more money. Maybe it will motivate the seller. In this case, it sounds like getting rid of 2 items at once was of the utmost importance. Many factors can come into play, distance, schedule, hell i feel that even waguns presence could come into play.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:36 pm |
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RocketScott
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snozzberries wrote: Maybe only semi-related, but what if instead of selling something, you are renting your property? You might have several offers, and sure 1 person was first, and 1 person was last, but is the order they replied to the ad the primary method of deciding who to rent to?
I could see where you might group everybody that responds within 24 hours as "first repliers".
If you list something, and 3 people all reply within 24 hours that they all want it at the listed price, how do you pick? Whats the etiquette on getting them to bid on it? Compare it to houses. Nobody get's a house at list price.
If you want something that bad, offer more money. Maybe it will motivate the seller. In this case, it sounds like getting rid of 2 items at once was of the utmost importance. Completely different scenario, what with the fair housing laws and all. Can't just not rent to a sketchy person because they look sketchy and their story doesn't add up. I can see both sides to the original topic. The seller probably should have explained the terms better but at the same time did not accept an offer nor set up a time/place to meet. Accepting the offer and then backing out would be a welsh. Ignoring an offer and taking a better one makes sense.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:21 pm |
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MadPick
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From a WaGuns "rules" perspective, we don't try to control who gets it. Some sites have a strict "first 'I'll take it' gets it" policy or something like that; we don't. You can check out our feedback thread to get an idea of what we expect: How to Leave FeedbackWould it be nice if the seller had said, "will give preference to a package deal"? Yes. Is it wrong that he didn't? No. Do I blame him for going with the buyer that wanted both guns, to save himself some hassle with meetups and make sure both were sold? Heck no.
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:38 pm |
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NWGunner
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While I sympathize with the OP's plight, look at it from the angle of the seller.... He/she posted an add trying to sell two guns. Went about their day, went to work, watched porn like Zombie66, designed another hard to get into Starbucks, like Massive, got into a blueberry fight with a cutie, like PMB, whatever ..... Comes home, logs into WAGUNS, and has a few PMs....several are inquiries for 1 or the other, but one person says, I'll take both.... He posted an add trying to sell 2 guns for Christmas money, or whatever, and here, in one fell swoop, is a done deal. Should he sit on one gun that may never sell? And you say you sent a message soon after posting, but that doesn't mean the taker of two didn't, as well. He could have sent the PM anytime before or after you did, and then posted in the thread when he hadn't heard back after awhile, I've done that. If it were me, I'd send a 'congrats on the sale, if you don't mind, could you please let the buyer know I'm interested in gun 'A', if they change their mind'..... This post isn't meant to undermine how you feel, just to give another viewpoint. For me, unless I read "it's yours", I don't count on it. Even then, unless I know the seller, or we've ironed out logistics and it wasn't like trying to play Twister, I'll believe it when they pull up. Hope you find the same thing at a BETTER price
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:07 pm |
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dougja
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Old Growth wrote: Yondering wrote: Along the same lines, I think there's some buyer etiquette that should be observed too. (Not commenting about the OP specifically)
A big one IMO is posting "I'll take it" so others can see that it's gone. I ran into that recently myself; a guy's ad had been posted a few hours before, with no replies, so I responded that I'd take "item xxx" and sent a PM, but the seller replied that someone else had already bought it. No fault of the seller of course, but it'd sure be nice if people take the time to post "I'll take it" Im just the other way. I don't like to advertise my intentions. I send PM as soon as I see something I want. Then I go pick it up ASAP. Im a buyer, not a claimer. A few thumbs up! A transaction is more than the thought of money changing hands, time and place are two important considerations. "Im a buyer, not a claimer"
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