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So far from the evidence presented we have:

1- The military failed to process information on a Federal data base that could have prevented him from buying a gun.

2- Escaped from mental hospital and never captured and returned to the facility for further treatment.

3- A history of domestic violence and animal cruelty.

Am I missing anything? So many red flags on this one. It is no mystery that the official systems failed on multiple levels including the military, the legal system, and our current mental health system.


You forgot the recent threats made towards the mother in law.

That was a member of that church....


Really?

So much for this being a random shooting then....he knew some of the Parishioners.

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Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:08 pm
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SporkBoy wrote:
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So far from the evidence presented we have:

1- The military failed to process information on a Federal data base that could have prevented him from buying a gun.

2- Escaped from mental hospital and never captured and returned to the facility for further treatment.

3- A history of domestic violence and animal cruelty.

Am I missing anything? So many red flags on this one. It is no mystery that the official systems failed on multiple levels including the military, the legal system, and our current mental health system.


You forgot the recent threats made towards the mother in law.


I chalked that one under #3 domestic violence.


Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:34 pm
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His ex in-laws family goes to that church. That was his primary motivation ... beside the batshit crazyness.

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Holy chit. X1000

Down to two rounds.

And cops respected the gun owner.

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Its funny that,,, when its a shooting of rage/love/DV/normal ol angry kinda stuff,,,,

We know the shooters name, history, motive, all parties involved, interviews with REAL people, etc. No questions left unanswered really at all.

But when a shooting happens in a city where EVERYTHING is on camera, we dont know NOTHING??


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Its funny that,,, when its a shooting of rage/love/DV/normal ol angry kinda stuff,,,,

We know the shooters name, history, motive, all parties involved, interviews with REAL people, etc. No questions left unanswered really at all.

But when a shooting happens in a city where EVERYTHING is on camera, we dont know NOTHING??


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Old Growth wrote:
Its funny that,,, when its a shooting of rage/love/DV/normal ol angry kinda stuff,,,,

We know the shooters name, history, motive, all parties involved, interviews with REAL people, etc. No questions left unanswered really at all.

But when a shooting happens in a city where EVERYTHING is on camera, we dont know NOTHING??


I am from a small town just north of Sutherland and the reason so much is known is because small town folks are nosey as fuck. There ain’t shit else to do but gossip and pry into other folks business. In big cities people live next to someone for 20 years and don’t even know their first name. I prefer somewhere in the middle.

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Old Growth wrote:
Its funny that,,, when its a shooting of rage/love/DV/normal ol angry kinda stuff,,,,

We know the shooters name, history, motive, all parties involved, interviews with REAL people, etc. No questions left unanswered really at all.

But when a shooting happens in a city where EVERYTHING is on camera, we dont know NOTHING??


I am from a small town just north of Sutherland and the reason so much is known is because small town folks are nosey as fuck. There ain’t shit else to do but gossip and pry into other folks business. In big cities people live next to someone for 20 years and don’t even know their first name. I prefer somewhere in the middle.


Well, cameras and electronic records are pretty nosy to.


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Old Growth wrote:
Its funny that,,, when its a shooting of rage/love/DV/normal ol angry kinda stuff,,,,

We know the shooters name, history, motive, all parties involved, interviews with REAL people, etc. No questions left unanswered really at all.

But when a shooting happens in a city where EVERYTHING is on camera, we dont know NOTHING??


I am from a small town just north of Sutherland and the reason so much is known is because small town folks are nosey as fuck. There ain’t shit else to do but gossip and pry into other folks business. In big cities people live next to someone for 20 years and don’t even know their first name. I prefer somewhere in the middle.


Having lived in a town of 250, I will echo the above. Everyone knows everything about everyone else.

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I think the point is that in a tiny town in Texas there is now video of the shooting, (No, i won't watch it) yet in Vegas, where there are Camera's EVERYWHERE, we have not seen a single Video of the shooter from the Hotel interior or elsewhere.
Just seems odd to me. :popcorn:

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Holly Chit is right. Engaged @ 20yrds. And his presence of mind throughout it all.

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cityslicker wrote:
So far from the evidence presented we have:

1- The military failed to process information on a Federal data base that could have prevented him from buying a gun.

2- Escaped from mental hospital and never captured and returned to the facility for further treatment.

3- A history of domestic violence and animal cruelty.

Am I missing anything? So many red flags on this one. It is no mystery that the official systems failed on multiple levels including the military, the legal system, and our current mental health system.

Bottom line:
WE MUST BAN "ASSAULT" GUNS!
They are the cause of all this.

:facepalm2:

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AR15L wrote:
cityslicker wrote:
So far from the evidence presented we have:

1- The military failed to process information on a Federal data base that could have prevented him from buying a gun.

2- Escaped from mental hospital and never captured and returned to the facility for further treatment.

3- A history of domestic violence and animal cruelty.

Am I missing anything? So many red flags on this one. It is no mystery that the official systems failed on multiple levels including the military, the legal system, and our current mental health system.

Bottom line:
WE MUST BAN "ASSAULT" GUNS!
They are the cause of all this.

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I know right? But our wealthy neighbor from microsoftland can have a scud launcher.
I say we start out with term limits on senators and abolish the ATF. It is the FBI's job anyway to do those kind of background checks. I was never in the military so I can not speak for the changes that need to happen there. Mental institutions need to be held legally liable for escaped patients in or out of state. The faculty should have contacted law enforcement and he should have been extradited for that specific purpose back to the funny farm.Extradition laws should include those that have been legally committed.
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cityslicker wrote:
AR15L wrote:
cityslicker wrote:
So far from the evidence presented we have:

1- The military failed to process information on a Federal data base that could have prevented him from buying a gun.

2- Escaped from mental hospital and never captured and returned to the facility for further treatment.

3- A history of domestic violence and animal cruelty.

Am I missing anything? So many red flags on this one. It is no mystery that the official systems failed on multiple levels including the military, the legal system, and our current mental health system.

Bottom line:
WE MUST BAN "ASSAULT" GUNS!
They are the cause of all this.

:facepalm2:


I know right? But our wealthy neighbor from microsoftland can have a scud launcher.
I say we start out with term limits on senators and abolish the ATF. It is the FBI's job anyway to do those kind of background checks. I was never in the military so I can not speak for the changes that need to happen there. Mental institutions need to be held legally liable for escaped patients in or out of state. The faculty should have contacted law enforcement and he should have been extradited for that specific purpose back to the funny farm.Extradition laws should include those that have been legally committed.
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I read an article that said he was caught after his escape and taken back to the institution. I never heard when/how/why he was released at a later time.

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WHAT.THE.FUCK

Chainsaw Bayonet?

This is who we're up against. Remember that the next time people start talking about "compromise" or "common sense."

X2. And can we start a group buy on the chainsaw bayonet? What an awesome xmas present that would make!

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