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RocketScott
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I’d go up in the attic and see what kind of connection is between the bottom cord of the truss and the top plate.
I toe nail them unless there is too much camber, then I use a connector that Simpson makes.
The Simpson connector is designed to allow for truss movement. When using them the sheet rock isn’t supposed to be nailed along the edge next to the wall so the taped corner will stay together.
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Daveygravey89
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RocketScott wrote: I’d go up in the attic and see what kind of connection is between the bottom cord of the truss and the top plate.
I toe nail them unless there is too much camber, then I use a connector that Simpson makes.
The Simpson connector is designed to allow for truss movement. When using them the sheet rock isn’t supposed to be nailed along the edge next to the wall so the taped corner will stay together.
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Sinus211
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jukk0u wrote: read the article
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Daveygravey89
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This is the worst one after the (repair) . It will get worse . Poor tonthe repair it was a good 1/4" to 5/16"
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jukk0u
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Popcorn? Didn't know that was back in style. How about installing some crown molding leaving some space between the ceiling and the top of the crown molding. The shadow line/space would be visually appealing and would hide further movement and re-cracking. With enough space and the right crown, accent lighting could be hidden behind the crown. Mike, the article is at the tail end of the first response I posted here. It discusses all of the truss-to-wall connections, the concepts behind the causes of the movement, more possible causes, and a list of potential fixes. Complete with pictures for the reading-challenged
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jukk0u
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BTW: I believe Rocket Scott would be a very credible source of information.
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Daveygravey89
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jukk0u wrote: Popcorn? Didn't know that was back in style. How about installing some crown molding leaving some space between the ceiling and the top of the crown molding. The shadow line/space would be visually appealing and would hide further movement and re-cracking. With enough space and the right crown, accent lighting could be hidden behind the crown. Mike, the article is at the tail end of the first response I posted here. It discusses all of the truss-to-wall connections, the concepts behind the causes of the movement, more possible causes, and a list of potential fixes. Complete with pictures for the reading-challenged It's not popcorn haha it's a new home , texture
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Sinus211
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That's some really heavy texture, almost like a knockdown that they forgot to knock down. I wonder if that wall runs parallel to the joists and is sitting on ply in between two of them. That could cause some substantial drooping.
Although it's probably the piers as Don suggested if it's only happening on interior walls like that one. A quick trip down to the crawl with a laser level would probably answer these questions quickly. Speaking of the crawl, have you seen any water intrusion down there?
p. I'm boycotting truss lift. Taking a knee, as it were
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Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:18 pm |
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RocketScott
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Daveygravey89 wrote: Are you a framer ?
Does the Pope shit in the woods? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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RocketScott
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Daveygravey89 wrote: This is the worst one after the (repair) . It will get worse . Poor tonthe repair it was a good 1/4" to 5/16" Is that ceiling vaulted or is it just a funny camera angle? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:33 pm |
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Daveygravey89
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sinus211 wrote: That's some really heavy texture, almost like a knockdown that they forgot to knock down. I wonder if that wall runs parallel to the joists and is sitting on ply in between two of them. That could cause some substantial drooping.
Although it's probably the piers as Don suggested if it's only happening on interior walls like that one. A quick trip down to the crawl with a laser level would probably answer these questions quickly. Speaking of the crawl, have you seen any water intrusion down there?
p. I'm boycotting truss lift. Taking a knee, as it were Guess I lied . I do have a vertical crack on my exterior shear wall.
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Daveygravey89
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RocketScott wrote: Daveygravey89 wrote: Are you a framer ?
Does the Pope shit in the woods? That's a dope build ! And yeah it's just funny angle , that part of the picture is not vaulted but just west of that wall I do have vaulted ceilings Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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TechnoWeenie
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New houses are shit. Ugh. Everyone wants to see how cheap and fast it can get done.
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Sinus211
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TechnoWeenie wrote: New houses are shit. Ugh. Everyone wants to see how cheap and fast it can get done. Old houses are shit too. There is no golden era of home building. The $800k houses I regularly work in out in Woodinville are beatifully designed, and built like shit. The 1920-1950's homes I see in downtown Seattle are built like shit. Upstairs supported on point loads in between joists on the lower levels The 60's-80's split levels...shit. Slap together the house and use as few fasteners as possible. The 90's-2000's track homes...? You guessed it, shit. OSB everything and those fucker's couldn't get the surface of water to sit level. There are always shortcuts. There are always builders pinching pennies. Code has evolved. Building material has evolved. And yet, the same old problems remain with lazy workers and cheap ass contractors. You want to see a well built house? Build it yourself. Except then you won't know what you're doing and it'll be built like shit. I have seen less than 20 houses that impressed me in almost 20 years of residential construction work.
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Pablo
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sinus211 wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: New houses are shit. Ugh. Everyone wants to see how cheap and fast it can get done. Old houses are shit too. There is no golden era of home building. The $800k houses I regularly work in out in Woodinville are beatifully designed, and built like shit. The 1920-1950's homes I see in downtown Seattle are built like shit. Upstairs supported on point loads in between joists on the lower levels The 60's-80's split levels...shit. Slap together the house and use as few fasteners as possible. The 90's-2000's track homes...? You guessed it, shit. OSB everything and those fucker's couldn't get the surface of water to sit level. There are always shortcuts. There are always builders pinching pennies. Code has evolved. Building material has evolved. And yet, the same old problems remain with lazy workers and cheap ass contractors. You want to see a well built house? Build it yourself. Except then you won't know what you're doing and it'll be built like shit. I have seen less than 20 houses that impressed me in almost 20 years of residential construction work. Money post.
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