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Laws to save us from ourselves.

New Jersey now requires a photo ID to buy drain cleaner or acid after a few hookers had their faces burned.
How many people have drain cleaner in their house? 98%?
That sure narrows it down during an investigation.

Seems it would be easier to find the one or two guys actually doing it rather than searching a database of several million people.

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Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:28 pm
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There is a whole branch of forensics (tooling marks) that already works. Microstamping (even if it works - which it doesnt) adds nothing except another barrier to entry and added costs.

Without a comprehensive registry of firearms what good does a perfect microstamp do? See how this goes? How many millions of firearms in circulation with no stamping? 80% builds?

They have such a law in CA and not one single firearm does microstamping.

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Guntrader wrote:
Laws to save us from ourselves.

New Jersey now requires a photo ID to buy drain cleaner or acid after a few hookers had their faces burned.
How many people have drain cleaner in their house? 98%?
That sure narrows it down during an investigation.

Seems it would be easier to find the one or two guys actually doing it rather than searching a database of several million people.

I got carded for spray paint at home depot, I laughed and asked why. She asked to make sure I was over 18, i laughed again and said no, I've been out of high school before you were out of diapers.







This title is tin foil click bait bullshit

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Guntrader wrote:
Laws to save us from ourselves.

New Jersey now requires a photo ID to buy drain cleaner or acid after a few hookers had their faces burned.
How many people have drain cleaner in their house? 98%?
That sure narrows it down during an investigation.

Seems it would be easier to find the one or two guys actually doing it rather than searching a database of several million people.


Meh, Jersey. NYC in the making regarding communism. I know, I lived there for 2 years. (Greenbrook)

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Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:14 pm
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I had a kid at Wal Mart ask me for ID to buy lithium camera batteries.
He said "People use them to make meth so we need ID"

I asked "Have you ever made meth?"
He said "No"

I said "Well, I knew people who made meth and they didn't use any fucking lithium batteries!"

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I got carded for spray paint at home depot (..)


Ditto.. I was open carrying as well...

I said 'If I'm under 18, you probably have more important things to worry about than if I'm trying to buy spray paint'.. She laughed, agreed it was BS and didn't stop anyone from huffing/tagging, and disagreed with the policy but asserted she had to follow it... No issues, just odd... People get brainwashed into 'just following policy' instead of using common sense.. Just like the 'if you're under 40 we ID' rules...

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I'm at a loss to figure out how this a a slam on 2A rights. Gun owners should be accountable for every shell casing left at a crime scene. Law abiding gun owners have absolutely nothing to worry about with this bill in my opinion. That said, I still would be extremely wary to support such a bill. The 1911 was already designed perfectly, and does not need an update such as micro-stamping.



This will do nothing to stop crime and so easily defeated it's a joke. But as expected. Democrats have to be "doing something to make us safer". The Government making us safer since 1215.

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OhShoot! wrote:
I'm at a loss to figure out how this a a slam on 2A rights. Gun owners should be accountable for every shell casing left at a crime scene. Law abiding gun owners have absolutely nothing to worry about with this bill in my opinion. That said, I still would be extremely wary to support such a bill.


Would you oppose printers requiring serial numbers to be printed on EVERY piece of paper, so you can track down those who print out threats or use it to write down plans?

I'm betting paper is used in more crimes than guns...

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Pretty sure a sand blaster would ruin the markings anyways....

Shit if you have a semi auto and want to kill someone just throw the gun in a garbage bag and go to town

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In high resolution color printers there has been a code embedded in the printer and printed on the paper since at least 2004.

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In high resolution color printers there has been a code embedded in the printer and printed on the paper since at least 2004.


Thank's for reminding me that I need to renew my CPP next week.

Sucks when your computer printer permit lapses and you can't use it.

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In high resolution color printers there has been a code embedded in the printer and printed on the paper since at least 2004.


cite?

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_steganography

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In 2017, Reality Winner was identified as a suspect in a leak of National Security Agency documents, owing to a microdot pattern on the leaked papers.


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Your kidding, right?
Originally used to track counterfeiters with the new high resolution printers.
Now they use it to also track leaked movie scripts and other documents.
I'm actually working on a book on digital imaging/printer forensics.

I can usually look at a printed page and tell you what class of printer that was used to print the document.
All have distinctive roller patterns that leave an imprint on the paper.
Plus repetitive defects that not only isolate the pattern to the printer, they isolate it to the roller...................used in repairing printers.



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Guntrader wrote:
In high resolution color printers there has been a code embedded in the printer and printed on the paper since at least 2004.


cite?



Written by
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June 10, 2017

In 2004, when color printers were still somewhat novel, PCWorld magazine published an article headlined: “Government Uses Color Laser Printer Technology to Track Documents.”

It was one of the first news reports on a quiet practice that had been going on for 20 years. It revealed that color printers embed in printed documents coded patterns that contain the printer’s serial number, and the date and time the documents were printed. The patterns are made up of dots, less than a millimeter in diameter and a shade of yellow that, when placed on a white background, cannot be detected by the naked eye.

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This would require a gun registry.

Also, what's to keep someone from picking up brass at a shooting range and sprinkling it at a crime scene.


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