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Do bicycles still have bells these days??
I'm thinking of something pink with training wheels and handlebar streamers.
Edit: Changed 'snowflake' to 'wimp' in title.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/03/28/s ... acked-him/
"Andrew says he was climbing the Loop trail on the east side of North Table Mountain and repeatedly rang his bell and alerted the trail runner he was trying to pass.
“He gets probably to this side of me almost completely past me and says, ‘I remember you.’ And before I know it he’s grabbing my throat. He basically shoved me over onto the boulder and I just went into total protection mode and tried to cover my head,” Andrew said. “After the two punches he stomped on my back kind of right around here,” Andrew said.

Then the runner allegedly threw Andrew’s bike 50 feet down the mountain off the trail.

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Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:36 pm
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Where is the snowflake here?

I see bells sold for bikes all the time. Mountain biker tries to get past on a trail, somebody gets cranky over sharing the trail and goes apeshit. How that makes the guy on a bike a "snowflake" is beyond me.

Maybe he should have been carrying an AR-15 pistol in .458 and let the runner have a full mag in order to assert dominance.

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I'll add snowflake to the long list of words that have lost all meaning.

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That is pretty damn cool, I don't care who you are.

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Bells are very handy for mountain bikers who ride in areas where bears may be nearby. No cyclist wants to come around a corner only to find a mama bear and her 2 cubs in the middle of the trail. Mama bear doesn't want this, either.

A bell is also good to have if you know that other trail users aren't likely to hear you coming (they're wearing headphones or it's a brushy environment where sound doesn't travel well) and there isn't a lot of extra room to safely pass them. Mountain trails are notorious for this, especially if they're narrow, rutted, or single track.

Colorado -- and Golden in particular -- is a prime domestic training ground for elite cyclists, both road and mountain. A number of guys who ride the Tour de France and the other big European stage races train in CO. That runner might be really bummed out to learn that, not only does he get to face charges for assault or whatever they determine this to be, but he will also have the pleasure of paying for that bike he chucked off the trail. Could be near 5 figures in replacement value.

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Thanks for the info.
But wouldn't a small electric or compressed gas horn work a lot better?
The little circular bells I remember as a kid weren't very loud.




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Bells are very handy for mountain bikers who ride in areas where bears may be nearby. No cyclist wants to come around a corner only to find a mama bear and her 2 cubs in the middle of the trail. Mama bear doesn't want this, either.

A bell is also good to have if you know that other trail users aren't likely to hear you coming (they're wearing headphones or it's a brushy environment where sound doesn't travel well) and there isn't a lot of extra room to safely pass them. Mountain trails are notorious for this, especially if they're narrow, rutted, or single track.

Colorado -- and Golden in particular -- is a prime domestic training ground for elite cyclists, both road and mountain. A number of guys who ride the Tour de France and the other big European stage races train in CO. That runner might be really bummed out to learn that, not only does he get to face charges for assault or whatever they determine this to be, but he will also have the pleasure of paying for that bike he chucked off the trail. Could be near 5 figures in replacement value.

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Bells are very handy for mountain bikers who ride in areas where bears may be nearby. No cyclist wants to come around a corner only to find a mama bear and her 2 cubs in the middle of the trail. Mama bear doesn't want this, either.

A bell is also good to have if you know that other trail users aren't likely to hear you coming (they're wearing headphones or it's a brushy environment where sound doesn't travel well) and there isn't a lot of extra room to safely pass them. Mountain trails are notorious for this, especially if they're narrow, rutted, or single track.

Colorado -- and Golden in particular -- is a prime domestic training ground for elite cyclists, both road and mountain. A number of guys who ride the Tour de France and the other big European stage races train in CO. That runner might be really bummed out to learn that, not only does he get to face charges for assault or whatever they determine this to be, but he will also have the pleasure of paying for that bike he chucked off the trail. Could be near 5 figures in replacement value.

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Do bicycles still have bells these days??
I'm thinking of something pink with training wheels and handlebar streamers.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/03/28/s ... acked-him/
"Andrew says he was climbing the Loop trail on the east side of North Table Mountain and repeatedly rang his bell and alerted the trail runner he was trying to pass.
He gets probably to this side of me almost completely past me and says, ‘I remember you.’ And before I know it he’s grabbing my throat. He basically shoved me over onto the boulder and I just went into total protection mode and tried to cover my head,” Andrew said. “After the two punches he stomped on my back kind of right around here,” Andrew said.

Then the runner allegedly threw Andrew’s bike 50 feet down the mountain off the trail.

There is history between these two. It's not just the bell.

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Guntrader wrote:
Thanks for the info.
But wouldn't a small electric or compressed gas horn work a lot better?
The little circular bells I remember as a kid weren't very loud.


Everything in cycling is about weight, right down to the gram. That's part of the reason top-level cyclists get sick so easily -- keeping themselves skinny is a cheap way to shave weight, but their immune systems are weakened in the process and they succumb to stomach bugs like they've contracted the fucking plague. The lightest option to make noise is one of those crappy little bells, so that's what's used. It's also a very incongruous sound out in the woods and usually carries farther than you think it would.

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Guntrader wrote:
Thanks for the info.
But wouldn't a small electric or compressed gas horn work a lot better?
The little circular bells I remember as a kid weren't very loud.


Everything in cycling is about weight, right down to the gram. That's part of the reason top-level cyclists get sick so easily -- keeping themselves skinny is a cheap way to shave weight, but their immune systems are weakened in the process and they succumb to stomach bugs like they've contracted the fucking plague. The lightest option to make noise is one of those crappy little bells, so that's what's used. It's also a very incongruous sound out in the woods and usually carries farther than you think it would.

Makes for some shiny bear poop, too!

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Guntrader wrote:
Do bicycles still have bells these days??
I'm thinking of something pink with training wheels and handlebar streamers.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/03/28/s ... acked-him/
"Andrew says he was climbing the Loop trail on the east side of North Table Mountain and repeatedly rang his bell and alerted the trail runner he was trying to pass.
He gets probably to this side of me almost completely past me and says, ‘I remember you.’ And before I know it he’s grabbing my throat. He basically shoved me over onto the boulder and I just went into total protection mode and tried to cover my head,” Andrew said. “After the two punches he stomped on my back kind of right around here,” Andrew said.

Then the runner allegedly threw Andrew’s bike 50 feet down the mountain off the trail.

There is history between these two. It's not just the bell.


That's what I was thinking too.

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From reading the story it sounds like the bicyclist shook his head at the runner when he was finally able to pass and the runner didn't appreciate the head shake. They ran into each other later at the top of the trail. Hence "I remember you." That's when the altercation occurred. This is just the cyclist's side of the story though.

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From reading the story it sounds like the bicyclist shook his head at the runner when he was finally able to pass and the runner didn't appreciate the head shake. They ran into each other later at the top of the trail. Hence "I remember you." That's when the altercation occurred. This is just the cyclist's side of the story though.

I wasn't there, of course, so this is pure speculation.

But it sounds like the ages old story.

Bicyclist feels superior to runner, and acts like it. Shakes his head at the runner, because the runner was 'uppity', and didn't magically disappear out of the way of the cyclist.

Runner notes this.

Later the cyclist comes up behind the runner again, and rings and rings and rings that bell at the uppity runner. We know the rest.

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