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 Someone explain difference between NICS check and CPL check? 
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Just curious: what is the difference in the mechanics of the actual checks - that is, what goes on behind the scenes - between the ATF 4473 for NCIS and applying for a WA CPL?


Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:14 am
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klc9761 wrote:
Just curious: what is the difference in the mechanics of the actual checks - that is, what goes on behind the scenes - between the ATF 4473 for NCIS and applying for a WA CPL?


Here is the whole gun purchase process in WA:
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=76956

The CPL process is really up to each LEO jurisdiction that issues them in WA. They have to meet the requirements of WA law.
The shorthand version is they run a "Triple I"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstat ... tion_Index

Then they need to look at what comes up from that, sometimes there aren't dispositions, so they have to investigate further.

I'll give you an example, I have an FBI file from Portland (getting my green card, fingerprints), so that shows up as a federal case.
It isn't an arrest or a conviction, but something that has to be looked at and eliminated as a concern.

They also look for court orders, injunctions. Involuntary commitments in DSHS systems.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.070
"The issuing authority shall conduct a check through the national instant criminal background check system, the Washington state patrol electronic database, the department of social and health services electronic database, and with other agencies or resources as appropriate, to determine whether the applicant is ineligible under RCW 9.41.040 or 9.41.045 to possess a firearm, or is prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law, and therefore ineligible for a concealed pistol license."

I found a handy SPD page which lists some of the systems they have access to in WA:
https://www.seattle.gov/police-manual/t ... on-systems


I forgot to say that the CPL process and the buying a handgun without a CPL process is very similar, at least at the local LEO level.


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Also the NICS check is done on all guns in WA (Federal level). CPL takes care of local check for handguns. WA due to I594 ALL guns get NICS.

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Biggest difference is that for the NICS check you don't have to submit fingerprints.

The CPL app requires pretty much the same info as the 4473 but prints need to be submitted.

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Is a "Triple III" run when an ATF 4473 is submitted?


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