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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:23 am

A.O. wrote:I wonder if the 24 month exemption helps speed up trust submissions. I really want that new Rugged Surge X, but not going to file individual. Not sure I'm ready to drop that cash yet either, but I do wonder when trusts will be quick.



I am seeing a few SS single shot trusts being approved in 4 months.

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:36 pm

Dreadi, are you doing the digital finger prints with these submissions or are they bringing them to you?

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:42 pm

Schoolboy wrote:Dreadi, are you doing the digital finger prints with these submissions or are they bringing them to you?
Everyone's prints are submitted digitally. I don't own a scanner though. There's options available.


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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:44 pm

Schoolboy wrote:Hang on let me check my list of suppressors I want for when trust start becoming reasonable....

Tbac;
22 takedown
Fly9
Ultra 9
Magnus

There are others I'm just not sold on the 3d printed guts of them.
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Here's dates for an approved Form 4 that I got today. This person received two approvals today and both were submitted using the same trust on the same day.


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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:24 pm

^That's a big improvement!

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:27 pm

All of this is very encouraging!
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:54 pm

At four months now for a suppressor through silencer shop.

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:09 am

A.O. wrote:I wonder if the 24 month exemption helps speed up trust submissions. I really want that new Rugged Surge X, but not going to file individual. Not sure I'm ready to drop that cash yet either, but I do wonder when trusts will be quick.


7 at home and 4 in Jail, hoping that 24 makes it quick.

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:06 pm

Individual applicant.

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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:49 pm

Here's my thoughts....

ATF has been challenged recently on multiple NFA fronts, including suppressors.

Part of the argument has been that ATF takes 12-18 months, and a delay is a denial of rights.

Currently, they're arguing that suppressors aren't firearms and are not covered by 2A.

How much you wanna bet their next argument would be 'even if they are firearms, a couple day delay isn't a denial of rights', and they pull up the last 2-3 months of approval times and say 'See, 90% of our approvals are within 1 week, that's not unreasonable', then go right back to the same BS once the heat is off?

I have zero faith that they're doing this out of the kindness of their hearts.. It's being done for a specific reason - we just need to find out what that reason is.

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:10 pm

TechnoWeenie wrote:Here's my thoughts....

ATF has been challenged recently on multiple NFA fronts, including suppressors.

Part of the argument has been that ATF takes 12-18 months, and a delay is a denial of rights.

Currently, they're arguing that suppressors aren't firearms and are not covered by 2A.

How much you wanna bet their next argument would be 'even if they are firearms, a couple day delay isn't a denial of rights', and they pull up the last 2-3 months of approval times and say 'See, 90% of our approvals are within 1 week, that's not unreasonable', then go right back to the same BS once the heat is off?

I have zero faith that they're doing this out of the kindness of their hearts.. It's being done for a specific reason - we just need to find out what that reason is.


It's the only way to guarantee you have gun owners on an easily accessible database.

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:14 pm

Interesting that I can get a can approval quicker than a standard rifle, pistol or shotgun here in WA thanks to the bullshit, do nothing to curb crime, waiting period of 10 days aka 2 weeks. Like TW said, I really want to know the ulterior motive behind the incredibly (suspicious) wait times on NFA forms.

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:54 pm

What if there is no ulterior motive? What if it's just The Riddler is manipulating your brain waves through your hat?


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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:02 am

dreadi wrote:What if there is no ulterior motive? What if it's just The Riddler is manipulating your brain waves through your hat?


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My hat is made of tinfoil.

unpossible

:bigsmile:

Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval

Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:00 am

TechnoWeenie wrote:
dreadi wrote:What if there is no ulterior motive? What if it's just The Riddler is manipulating your brain waves through your hat?


BLACK HAMMER ARMS
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http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms
https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms


My hat is made of tinfoil.

unpossible

:bigsmile:



Wait we're supposed to use tin foil? :bonghit:
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