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AFT Shenannigans... a Thread!
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jukk0u
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Since the stories come out so fast and frequently about AFT abuses and infringements, maybe we should lump them all in one easy to find stinking cesspool of tyranny? This week on "AFT: 2A Killers" https://www.ammoland.com/2022/03/atf-ba ... L_CAMPAIGN) Home-made silencer applications being denied in bulk. Applicants info forwarded to field offices to ensure fabrication hasn't already occurred?
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Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:53 pm |
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jukk0u
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Photo (of parts) and supplier (of parts) info now required for silencer Form 1 submission. Some kits may be deemed as functional silencer which they feel requires a Form 4 just to purchase. "Some see these new requirements as the ATF implementing new rules in the middle of a rule change process without the agency going through the required rule-change procedure. Form 1 suppressors are mentioned in the upcoming unfinished frames and receiver rule that is expected to be finalized this summer. Many think that rule will end all Form 1 suppressors when unveiled." https://www.ammoland.com/2022/03/atf-re ... L_CAMPAIGN)
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:05 am |
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MadPick
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It's time for that government reset, I think. And the ATF is right at the front of it.
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Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:41 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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MadPick wrote: It's time for that government reset, I think. And the ATF is right at the front of it. The Founding Fathers wrote: When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. It was true then, and it's true now.
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Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:58 am |
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TechnoWeenie
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MadPick wrote: It's time for that government reset, I think. And the ATF is right at the front of it.
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TechnoWeenie
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Guns4Liberty wrote: MadPick wrote: It's time for that government reset, I think. And the ATF is right at the front of it. The Founding Fathers wrote: When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. It was true then, and it's true now. Gov't and leftists have one major flaw. They don't want to leave people the fuck alone. and... as usual.. they exempt their 'protectors' from the law...
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:40 am |
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NWGunner
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: MadPick wrote: It's time for that government reset, I think. And the ATF is right at the front of it. The Founding Fathers wrote: When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. It was true then, and it's true now. Gov't and leftists have one major flaw. They don't want to leave people the fuck alone. They need your money. To get it, they need control.
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Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:51 am |
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TechnoWeenie
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NWGunner wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: MadPick wrote: It's time for that government reset, I think. And the ATF is right at the front of it. The Founding Fathers wrote: When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. It was true then, and it's true now. Gov't and leftists have one major flaw. They don't want to leave people the fuck alone. They need your money. To get it, they need control. 'They need to take your money, in order for them to spend it' -Milton Friedman
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:53 am |
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jukk0u
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The "No Gun Registry Rights Act". Two Senators have introduced legislation in response to the AFT's back-door registry (using the records of out-of-business FFL's) "The members have introduced a bill that would prevent the ATF from receiving documents from FFLs that shut their doors. Instead of sending their records to the ATF’s out of business office to be scanned into the OBRIS database, the FFL would simply destroy the records." https://www.ammoland.com/2022/03/no-gun ... L_CAMPAIGN)#axzz7NFUFgXir
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:35 am |
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1BallJay
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And the House of Reps passes Gun Control. Allowing local LE to enforce ATF gun control. Also, look at the Reps that voted for it. I hope Newhouse gets beat. I know he's pissed off a lot of locals from his home town and in the Yakima Valley as a whole. https://www.gunowners.org/na03102022/
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Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:13 pm |
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Pablo
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1BallJay wrote: And the House of Reps passes Gun Control. Allowing local LE to enforce ATF gun control. Also, look at the Reps that voted for it. I hope Newhouse gets beat. I know he's pissed off a lot of locals from his home town and in the Yakima Valley as a whole. https://www.gunowners.org/na03102022/Thanks for posting this. I've been getting the GOA e-mail as well. That is a list of shit stains for sure. HerraraButtldd and newcunthouse wafflin RINOs.
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Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:21 pm |
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Diamondback
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1BallJay wrote: And the House of Reps passes Gun Control. Allowing local LE to enforce ATF gun control. Also, look at the Reps that voted for it. I hope Newhouse gets beat. I know he's pissed off a lot of locals from his home town and in the Yakima Valley as a whole. https://www.gunowners.org/na03102022/Isn't that Shitslee's old district where Wenatchee shitcanned him so hard he bounced in '94 over That Damn Ban?
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Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:38 pm |
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jukk0u
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Inslee: turncoat
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_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:25 pm |
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Diamondback
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jukk0u wrote: Inslee: turncoat And then the lying bucket of piss turned right around and voted for it...
_________________ Joe Biden is not now, nor will he EVER be, my President. Psalms 109:8 #F---JoeBiden - NRA & SAF LIFE MEMBER The NRA: Fighting Democrat Terrorists with Military-Style Assault Weapons Since 1871.
What have YOU done to defend your gun rights against the idiots in DC and Olympia today?
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surevaliance
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One word: “Waco”… Not enough? Then “Fast And Furious”!
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