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"Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38323
Real Name: Dan
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New Y tows nice! Way better than the X did. Was up in Bainbridge this weekend.
These boats and trailer are the worst thing you can tow. Even ICE tow rigs curse their MPG.
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Caveman Jim
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Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7834
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mcyclonegt wrote: Massivedesign wrote: That guy yells. A lot. He is the most annoying car YouTuber. If he broke his arm he wouldn’t be able to talk.
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jukk0u
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Don't text while auto-piloting. Auto pilot "lurches forward"; takes out motorcyclist. https://komonews.com/news/local/tesla-a ... ell-phone#Yee-e-a-ahhh. I'm not buying it.
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38323
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Tesla will pull the logs.
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CQBgopher
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Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8299
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Flogged a Rivian R1T for about 65 miles yesterday. Impressive.
Fit n finish is above a Tesla, however they still suffer that American car panel alignment gap problem especially with the cargo doors on the bedsides. And the tonneau cover wouldn’t work correctly. And the tailgate would not open half of the time. And the tires are basically minivan treads.
“On sale” 80 grand out the door….dunno.
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surevaliance
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Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6815
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Jay Inslee announces $45 million cash subsidy for “low income” families to buy EVs. https://mustreadalaska.com/wacky-in-was ... taxpayers/Wacky in Washington: Inslee buying electric vehicles for ‘low-income’ residents, paid for by taxpayers
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38323
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Stupid... The income level to qualify basically poverty. It also basically gives people cars for free when they lease. Quote: Interested consumers will go to a dealer to learn about low-cost lease offers available under the state instant rebate program. The dealer will get a signed attestation that the buyer meets the income requirements of the program, and determine that their credit score qualifies for a lease deal on offer. With that, the dealer deducts the applicable rebate amount from the cost of the lease and then applies dealer, state and local fees to arrive at the total lease amount. There is no state sales tax because the vehicles qualify for the state’s zero-emission vehicles exemption up to $15,000 in lease payments.
For example: A dealer is advertising a three-year lease at $239 per month with $1,999 due at signing – for a total lease cost of $10,364 ($1,999 + $239 x 35 months). For the qualifying customer, a $9,000 state EV Instant Rebate brings the lease cost down to $1,364. The dealer applies a $500 lease fee, $200 documentation fee, and collects state and local transit, title and registration fees of $734, making the final lease total $2,798, or $78 per month over the 36-month agreement. Is that low income person going to be able to pay the mileage overage when they turn back in the EV, the insurance of a new car, they probably won't have access to home charging so they will be paying huge $$ to charge at the charging stations via credit card. All around, horrible idea.
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RocketScott
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They're probably using lease terms for people with excellent credit in that example
How many poor people have excellent credit, or any credit for that matter?
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CQBgopher
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Massivedesign wrote: Stupid... The income level to qualify basically poverty. It also basically gives people cars for free when they lease. Quote: Interested consumers will go to a dealer to learn about low-cost lease offers available under the state instant rebate program. The dealer will get a signed attestation that the buyer meets the income requirements of the program, and determine that their credit score qualifies for a lease deal on offer. With that, the dealer deducts the applicable rebate amount from the cost of the lease and then applies dealer, state and local fees to arrive at the total lease amount. There is no state sales tax because the vehicles qualify for the state’s zero-emission vehicles exemption up to $15,000 in lease payments.
For example: A dealer is advertising a three-year lease at $239 per month with $1,999 due at signing – for a total lease cost of $10,364 ($1,999 + $239 x 35 months). For the qualifying customer, a $9,000 state EV Instant Rebate brings the lease cost down to $1,364. The dealer applies a $500 lease fee, $200 documentation fee, and collects state and local transit, title and registration fees of $734, making the final lease total $2,798, or $78 per month over the 36-month agreement. Is that low income person going to be able to pay the mileage overage when they turn back in the EV, the insurance of a new car, they probably won't have access to home charging so they will be paying huge $$ to charge at the charging stations via credit card. All around, horrible idea. Votes. Low hanging, easy to pick votes.
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