So rather than ask why the Republican party is viewed a certain way by certain groups of people, you go on attack that paints the opposition in a negative light, blames them for the Republicans not having more support, and fail to consider how to attract more voters.

You seem to be operating under the assumption the Republicans are the only logical choice and anyone who doesn't make it wrong and possibly a mooch.

You fail at marketing. Until you can ask and answer what is bad about the GOP, you and others like you will keep shouting into the wind, while alienation more and more voters.

In order to fail at marketing, I would have to be engaged in marketing, which I am not. You're the only one in this thread who wants to talk about what's wrong with the GOP. You're entirely missing the point...again.

*whoosh* dude. You ranted about why people don't vote Republican, but fail to ask how to court those people and go off bitching about media and handouts. This is why the Republicans are seen as a joke.

Because they are. People like you are what empower the antis.

I'd hoped this would self-correct, but it didn't change.

I'm starting to think you and guns4liberty are the same person. You certainly make the same noises.

Never met him.

By "back to the topic" I mean the points made in the movie (as represented by the link I posted in the beginning of this thread). Take 'em one at a time - agree or disagree with each point according to what you've seen here in WA.

What I've been seeing here is a lot of trying to make points against another poster, and there's no point in that.

Your intense contempt for the Republican party is on full display...not just in this thread, but in others as well. But where is your outrage at the party with a clear anti-2A agenda? I have yet to see it. In fact, it was when I pointed out that it was the Right that has preserved gun rights to this point that you really went into full attack mode on the Republicans. Why is that? You appear to be passionate about the shooting sports, and yet you are oddly silent about the anti-gun antics coming out of the Democratic Party. Instead, you leap at the opportunity to deflect the focus of the thread to everything that is wrong with Republican Party. Did my criticism of the Left strike a nerve with you? Why do you feel such intense disdain for the only party that actually fights to preserve gun rights?

FIFY.

Because they aren't the only party supporting gun rights.

Because the right is just as evil as the left.

Because while the Republican Neanderthals are scratching their butt and wondering why more people don't flock to their wonderful, rights defending party, they fail to see why.

You mistake pointing out the failures of one party as tacit support for another, then you stoop to plagiarizing my prior statement in a grasping effort to retain a position.

But I get it. Only your narrow issues matter and the reason people don't flock to your bitter old white man Bible thumping party is because media and government is against them. But you'll nobly struggle on supporting true freedom despite the opposition, no matter what.

Keep telling yourself that, you might believe it after awhile. The right is as much a cancer on this nation as the left, and single issue causes won't sustain it. You want people to stop supporting the left and stop being mean to your precious Republicans, you need to start listening to your propaganda and supporting maximum individual liberty and small government.

Otherwise, you're just a Democrat who wants to own guns.

FIFY, too.

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Back to the original topic: if we want to prevent WA from ending up like CO, at least on the 2A issue, we have to increase positive exposure to firearms for the younger generations. We have to remove the stigma that has been attached to guns. We have to eliminate the irrational fear. The only way I know how to do that is to put a gun in someone's hand and let them try it for themselves. I've taken so many people (women and children included) out shooting, and I have succeeded in changed some minds. They may never own a gun, but at least now they don't fear them as much, and they have a better understanding of them that can be applied to ballot measures. Exposure, exposure, exposure.

You might try making guns a rights issue and not tied to a certain political party.

Hopeless.

Nah. I believe the GOP can turn around.

The GOP might be able to turn it around (they need younger leaders taking the front lines ASAP)...but I also think if being pro-2A is turned into an authentic movement about "rights" we might have some luck as a larger group (not just one political party or the other). But this will require getting people out of their comfort zone on both sides of the issue. You've got to get new shooters to the range but also slap old shooters upside the head when they violate any of the 4 laws of gun safety (it confuses new shooters and makes them feel unsafe) or start mouthing off about "stupid broads" or "that Muslim in the White House" or what ever (it reinforces negative stereotypes and makes younger/culturally diverse/female shooters feel unwelcome).

Folks who have never shot a gun are just ignorant/inexperience and need a welcoming invitation from us...but we are our own worst enemy more often than not. A perfect example is the guy in camo with a long gun at the anti-594 rally the other day...or the dumbass at my range the other day, who was racking the slide on his handgun with his finger on the trigger - as it was pointed in an unsafe direction.