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 Rattling/Calling Blacktail. Yay or Nay? 
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My In-Laws have a winery/cidery on 180 acres near the mouth of the Columbia River Gorge, just east of Washougal. Sitting here in my ground blind on my first blacktail hunt. Got doe estrus placed out in front of me, as well as some apples from the cider apple orchard scattered around.

I'm a complete rookie at this. I'm wondering if I should go to Sportsman's Warehouse and pick up a set of those rattling antlers and/or a call of some kind? Does rattling/calling even work for blacktail? The GMU that I'm in allows harvest of any deer, buck or doe. I'd be perfectly happy with either as I'm really just on this hunt for the meat.

The GMU is also firearms restricted. (No rifles). I'm using a smoothbore 12ga with 1oz rifled slugs, so, hoping to get a shot between 50-75 yds.

Here's the view out my blind window:
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Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:13 pm
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The game camera caught this spike last night, so there's at least one buck in the area.
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Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:29 pm
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Good luck, the black tail on the wet side are pretty much nocturnal.

You should be in position when hunting hours open and an hour prior to close, since that's when they usually move. Otherwise, plan on waking around to find out where they bed down.

Also hunt a firearms restricted gmu, so I hunt with a crossbow and make as little noise as possible.


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Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:16 pm
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Just heard some gunshots not too far away. Maybe somebody got lucky.


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I bet the blacktail is right behind you :P

Haha, just playing! Good luck!


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Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:43 pm
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I would not be putting out those apples and advertising it online as baiting like that can get you into trouble. Its not like you do like I do and keep a trace mineral salt block there all the time behind the cabin but I do not hunt over it. 10 gallon limit aint very much to ad to what is on the ground and if the deer have not been eating apples you will just be giving them the scours.

"Bait" is any substance that could serve as a
lure, food, or attraction for deer or elk.
Except as otherwise provided in this section,
it is unlawful to hunt for deer and elk using
any type of bait placed, exposed, deposited,
distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for
the purpose of attracting deer or elk with
the intent to hunt them, if the volume of bait
accessible to wildlife exceeds 10 gallons. Bait
sites of an individual license holder cannot be
placed within 200 yards from another known
bait site or another bait site of the same license
holder.
Exceptions:
Hunting on or over the following is not
considered an unlawful use of bait while
hunting deer or elk:
• Locally common agricultural and
ranching practices including salt or
mineral distribution, and feeding;
• Food that is available from undisturbed
wild, volunteer, or planted vegetation;
including fruit trees, orchards, vineyards,
and food plots;
• Scents used for cover and attractant that
are not consumed by animals;
• Naturally occurring mineral deposits; or
• As authorized by a department permit
issued to address a management
objective.
• Exceptions do not include accidental or
intentional spills, dumping, or storage of
agricultural produce, feed, or bait.
A violation of this section is punishable as an
infraction under RCW 77.15.160 if no animal
has been shot or killed and RCW 77.15.410
Unlawful hunting of big game—Penalty, if an
animal has been shot or killed.


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Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:33 am
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hartcreek wrote:
I would not be putting out those apples and advertising it online as baiting like that can get you into trouble. Its not like you do like I do and keep a trace mineral salt block there all the time behind the cabin but I do not hunt over it.

Baiting for deer and elk is legal in WA state. Go pickup a set of Regs if you do not believe me.

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lamrith wrote:
hartcreek wrote:
I would not be putting out those apples and advertising it online as baiting like that can get you into trouble. Its not like you do like I do and keep a trace mineral salt block there all the time behind the cabin but I do not hunt over it.

Baiting for deer and elk is legal in WA state. Go pickup a set of Regs if you do not believe me.


Yep. I thoroughly read the regs and am acting within the law.


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Yup, can't bait bear in Washington, but you can sure as hell bait deer and elk.

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I've never rattled for blacktail, primarily because the general buck season is normally well before the rut starts. I have used calls a lot, very successfully both for blacktail and muleys. Doe and fawn bleats seem to elicit the best results, especially if you can hear the deer but can't see it. Soft calls seem to arouse curiosity and get the animals to come into view.

Traditionally it seems that stand/blind hunting with a rifle is more of a whitetail game. Seems to me it is easier to pattern whitetails and intercept them. Blacktails seem to just wander around in their core areas. I wander around after them and sooner or later we end up at the same place.

Good Luck Breck, let us know how you do.

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Traut wrote:
I've never rattled for blacktail, primarily because the general buck season is normally well before the rut starts. I have used calls a lot, very successfully both for blacktail and muleys. Doe and fawn bleats seem to elicit the best results, especially if you can hear the deer but can't see it. Soft calls seem to arouse curiosity and get the animals to come into view.

Traditionally it seems that stand/blind hunting with a rifle is more of a whitetail game. Seems to me it is easier to pattern whitetails and intercept them. Blacktails seem to just wander around in their core areas. I wander around after them and sooner or later we end up at the same place.

Good Luck Breck, let us know how you do.


Great info. Thank you. Spent yesterday and today in the blind. Did some doe bleats and fawn bleats. Nothing yet. Going to stick it out until 5:00pm on Sunday.

During the mid-day hours, I set out on foot. Didn't scare anything up.


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Sounds like you are on the right track to venison, Breck. If there are a lot of cougars in your area, go easy on fawn in distress call. Coyotes and bobcats and the occasional bear are fun to see, puma not so much. Don't ask how I came up with this theory.

Keep at it, and post pics when you connect.

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For late black tail hunt, doe urine and one of those flip over doe calls, works great!


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Fuck. I shot a big doe tonight. About an hour before dusk on an old overgrown road with pretty thick forest on both edges. She bolted straight for the forest. Saw her about 20yds into the alders, maples, ferns, & blackberries. Took another shot and hit her again. She bolted again. In retrospect, I realize that I should've waited and let her bleed out before taking that second shot. Found the blood trail from the first shot. Then found the fur and blood from the second shot. Looked until I couldn't see anymore. Going to go out again in the morning and look until I find her. I feel pretty awful walking away from an animal that I mortally wounded.


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