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Got 'yoyes but no decent shooting lanes
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SporkBoy
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Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2946
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So many coyotes hovering around but all the decent spots are in direct lines to neighbors houses.
Yesterday sitting out just before dusk enjoying some delish tacos and two coyotes went into the cow pasture to lap up calf droppings - prime spot from my porch to take them ~120 meters away. Problem is the 'backstop' is flat ground and light woods leading ~750 meters away to some houses. Eventually the local flock of canada geese chased off the coyotes.
Later that night the coyotes got into the neighbors chicken coop. Quite the racket - and he popped of two rounds.
There is a fairly narrow 30 degree 'window' with an open shooting lane but when the coyotes are in the zone they are 250 meters away - not quite in my effective range.
So the plan is to setup a decoy some calling and just use shotguns and try to get them in close and give them some buckshot.
A few weeks ago the coyotes got 15 chickens from next door so something has to be done ...
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:41 am |
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mcyclonegt
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Look into one of the 25 or 38 caliber pellet rifles. I imagine they would play hell on some yotes
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Guns4Liberty
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If you can get them in close enough, 12ga buckshot should do the trick. Sounds like fun!
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:05 am |
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dreadi
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Surely there's someone here that's proficient at 250m and will volunteer just for fun.
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Pablo
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Net them.
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cmica
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got a bow?
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:04 pm |
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hartcreek
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I think that I would bait them into a shooting lane. Maybe a pile of treats and one of those wounded animal calls sitting on a post. Seems ,like you could rig something up using a photo cell to keep a battery charged.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:12 pm |
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bhpdrew
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dreadi wrote: Surely there's someone here that's proficient at 250m and will volunteer just for fun. I'm your huckleberry...
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bhpdrew
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hartcreek wrote: I think that I would bait them into a shooting lane. Maybe a pile of treats and one of those wounded animal calls sitting on a post. Seems ,like you could rig something up using a photo cell to keep a battery charged. Gut piles work wonders... so I've heard... So does a suppressed .22 if they're in close enough...
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:20 pm |
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MadPick
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I can't picture exactly what your neighborhood looks like, but from your description I'm inclined to think that there's no safe way to do this.
Think of a typical shooting range and standard rules: You have a shooting line and a 'safe zone' 90 degrees to the left and 90 degrees to the right. If all you have is a 30-degree cone, then at BEST you have 15 degrees on either side of the bullet path. And that's only if you're shooting directly in the center of that cone....
It sounds to me like you need to just forget about shooting the coyotes within the neighborhood. Well, maybe archery is an option, I don't know, but I sure wouldn't want to be in your neighbor's house if you pull out a firearm.
Maybe you could get outside the ring of houses and then hunt the pack . . . ?
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:58 pm |
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Sinus211
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If you can't put a shot on a dog at 250 meters there's a need for some new hardware. 20"barrel 55gr polymer tip .223 ought to drop them where they stand and unless it's a windy night you're golden.
Is there any high ground you can set up on to give you a down angle shot? That would minimize the risk of overshooting if you miss.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:21 pm |
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SporkBoy
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Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2946
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MadPick wrote: I can't picture exactly what your neighborhood looks like, but from your description I'm inclined to think that there's no safe way to do this.
Think of a typical shooting range and standard rules: You have a shooting line and a 'safe zone' 90 degrees to the left and 90 degrees to the right. If all you have is a 30-degree cone, then at BEST you have 15 degrees on either side of the bullet path. And that's only if you're shooting directly in the center of that cone....
It sounds to me like you need to just forget about shooting the coyotes within the neighborhood. Well, maybe archery is an option, I don't know, but I sure wouldn't want to be in your neighbor's house if you pull out a firearm.
Maybe you could get outside the ring of houses and then hunt the pack . . . ? Closest neighbor on the line I'd like to shoot (because that's where the coyotes always appear) is >750 meters - that's safe enough for a shotgun (buckshot) - no? I was just trying to find the lazy way to sit on the back porch and shoot as opposed to getting out and doing a proper hunt. There is a choice spot ~ 150 meters off to the side with miles of forest and a hill for a backstop (there is not +/-90 degrees 'safe zone' but close to +/- 70 degrees) but I just have to bait/decoy/call the coyotes on over - I never did that before but looks like to better way to go. As for the effective range - I just can't shoot that good anymore (well, out of practice anyway). I'm working on that, too. For now I can do 4 MOA reliably but I don't think that is good enough for coyotes at 250 meters. Not that this bit will clarify the neighborhood much but it is more like a line of houses (north-south) and then 4-5 plots at a 90 angle off in the distance (towards the west ) at the cross street (those are the ones out >750 meters). Pretty much everything NNW counterclockwise through S is forested land and hills. North clockwise through south in the easterly direction are scattered houses.
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Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:52 pm |
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MadPick
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SporkBoy wrote: Closest neighbor on the line I'd like to shoot (because that's where the coyotes always appear) is >750 meters - that's safe enough for a shotgun (buckshot) - no? I don't know, honestly. I don't know how far buckshot would go if it bounced off a rock or something. I'm trying to put myself in your neighbor's house. I look out the window and see you 750 meters away, shooting directly at my house. Granted I may not be imagining the scenario correctly, but I'm thinking that the neighbor could get kinda pissed even if his house doesn't get hit.
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Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:18 pm |
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hartcreek
Location: Union Gap Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 Posts: 1722
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st up the gut pile and a caller and get one of those elevated chairs so u are 10-15 feet up in the air
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