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WanderingWalrus
Location: Redmond/Bellevue/Kirkland Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2014 Posts: 516
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cmica wrote: im not sold on this....
tell me why 2 hrs to do a ribeye when it takes 11-15min on a grill?
Well, that's not quite the story - 2 hours for a ribeye is the upper end of it being ready without being overdone. It's ready from half an hour. That's half the point. You *can't* make it go beyond medium if that's what you set the temperature for, and sous-vide allows for precision temperature control and it being very repeatable. But, it also means that your ribeye is ready to sear for an hour and half, so if you're not sure when you need to serve then you've got a massive window of it being ready without it being overdone. The precision means that if you want medium you get medium. If you want medium-rare, that's what you get. Literally, however you want it cooked, you can do so. With a crock-pot you don't have the precision, but there are modifications for crock-pots out there to turn them in to sous-vide devices.
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818
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Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:49 pm |
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MadPick
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That looks really tasty, Chuck!
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Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:59 pm |
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golddigger14s
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I was worried about only controlling it with a cell phone, and having wi-fi available. So I contacted them, and they got back to me VERY fast. It is totally controllable manually as in the campground scenario I was thinking about. https://support.anovaculinary.com/hc/en ... he-device-
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Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:49 pm |
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WanderingWalrus
Location: Redmond/Bellevue/Kirkland Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2014 Posts: 516
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Neat. The Joule I have is a smaller device, but it has no method of control aside from the app (or Facebook/Alexa integration). I'm not actually certain whether you can just use Bluetooth, or whether there has to be wifi. I should check.
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Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:29 pm |
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golddigger14s
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_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:19 pm |
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Wetpaperbag
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Location: olympia Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2013 Posts: 3784
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golddigger14s wrote: My real first try at SV. Pre-seasoned tri-tip steak from Safeway that was already packed in a vacuum sealed bag. It had been sitting in my freezer for a few months. Recipe said 130 for 2 hours, but I think I will bump it up to 135 degrees next time. Seared on the griddle when it was done. I have the same device, and it works great. Next time cut that meat against the grain. Rookie maneuver. Cash and Carry has great containers that can hold some water depth if you need. Anyone into Sous-vied should get these two books: https://www.amazon.com/Sous-Vide-Home-T ... e+cookbookhttps://www.amazon.com/Food-Lab-Cooking ... e+cookbook
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Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:49 am |
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PMB
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Wetpaperbag wrote: I have the same device, and it works great. Next time cut that meat against the grain. Rookie maneuver.
Cash and Carry has great containers that can hold some water depth if you need. I have been wondering if would make any difference to insulate the cooking container, haven't seen that done yet. Quicker to hear up, and I wonder if it would keep the temp more even. The cooker gets ordered today... I'll use the PID controller for a poultry incubator instead.
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Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:12 am |
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Pablo
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No fucking way with standard plastic bags
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Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:31 am |
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PMB
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Pablo wrote: No fucking way with standard plastic bags Yes, that is my #1 hangup on this, thanks to your reminders. Still trying to figure that out. Even if we conclude that by buying the proper bags we're good, there is so much counterfeit merchandise floating around that we'd always be wondering. I'd really like to see some in-depth testing done, with all leaching documented. Actually, I don't care too much about my intake anymore -I am concerned and careful for the little Balrog.
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Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:53 am |
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Pablo
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PMB wrote: Pablo wrote: No fucking way with standard plastic bags Yes, that is my #1 hangup on this, thanks to your reminders. Still trying to figure that out. Even if we conclude that by buying the proper bags we're good, there is so much counterfeit merchandise floating around that we'd always be wondering. I'd really like to see some in-depth testing done, with all leaching documented. Actually, I don't care too much about my intake anymore -I am concerned and careful for the little Balrog. Ditto. I think the issue with me, there just aren't any studies that I know of. As in ranking of bags available. I know how plastics/plastic bags are made. The plastic itself doesn't scare me.
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Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:04 am |
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golddigger14s
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Good article on batch cooking. Basically cooking in sous vide with vacuum bags, and the freeze it for later. https://anovaculinary.com/batch-cooking ... _us_banner)&goal=0_0315742ebc-3cc8598aec-107940901&mc_cid=3cc8598aec&mc_eid=85cb17d8c3
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Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:26 pm |
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065
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I did some brats and they came out soft, almost like wiesswurst. They were awesome.
Chris, I'll let you borrow mine and you can discover the awesome.
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Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:17 pm |
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12475
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PMB wrote: Wetpaperbag wrote: I have the same device, and it works great. Next time cut that meat against the grain. Rookie maneuver.
Cash and Carry has great containers that can hold some water depth if you need. I have been wondering if would make any difference to insulate the cooking container, haven't seen that done yet. Quicker to hear up, and I wonder if it would keep the temp more even. The cooker gets ordered today... I'll use the PID controller for a poultry incubator instead. Amazon has container lids for sous vide, here's just one example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073S3TKD8/re ... rd_w=X4DP1There is a 'hack' of sorts...some people use ping pong balls. They like it because they don't have to mess with a lid to adjust the bags, and the condensation on the balls falls back in the water. Here's a google search with a YouTube vid, and articles about it: http://www.google.com/search?sclient=ta ... dkduiSvB1E
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Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:47 pm |
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WanderingWalrus
Location: Redmond/Bellevue/Kirkland Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2014 Posts: 516
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I just use plastic wrap. The science says that most of the energy loss is in evaporation, not radiation out of the sides, so anything that stops evaporation, like saran wrap over the top, or ping-pong balls, or a lid made out of polystyrene with a hole cut in for your device, and then wrapped with foil to stop the moisture getting into the foam all work really well.
Amazon does ping-pong balls at 144 for 10 bucks. Mini rubber duckies aren't much more expensive, actually.
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