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Pablo wrote:This is decent:
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surevaliance wrote:10 Nutrients That You Can't Get From Animal Foods
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Pablo wrote:None of that is lost on me. I lost weight in Italy. Exactly.
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oldkim wrote:Pablo wrote:None of that is lost on me. I lost weight in Italy. Exactly.
But the video you linked says to eat the "wheat" and cheeses.
I just want to have folks think about what it good and why it's bad.
When trying to duplicate a Mediterranean diet in the US you are not using the ingredients from that the Mediterranean per se.
One uses highly refined US available ingredients or buy products made here using said highly processed and refined ingredients.
Also this is a slippery slope as people will devour loads and loads of highly processed breads and highly processed cheeses.
So, from the start you are promoting the same old message... which is broken and lost to the vast majority of people here.
One of the things I am seeing is how we need to detox from carbs.
The trash carbs all made with highly refined and processed, commercially grown and altered foods (called the modern diet that is actually killing us from within).
But let me give you another example or difference. You were in Italy?
Then you had some sauces made with tomatoes...
Look at what types of tomatoes they use. How they process it and eat it. They remove the skin. They use only the meaty flesh. They cut out the centers with seeds. They cut out the areas of the tomato that contain larger contents that have solanine.
They have developed this method over their cultural history for a reason.
It's common here in the US to use the whole tomato (because we don't know any better - skin and all).
Mon May 06, 2024 5:52 am
Pablo wrote:
I agree on the tomatoes.
I agree on some wheats, for sure USA of any variety.
I don't agree on good, real, high fat cheese.
The point of the video was NOT to say the Med diet is best. I think you skimmed right to that, and even the brit guy says that. The main point of the video is we are omnivores, leaning to carnivore. And ignorant genius vegans have is completely wrong, yet brag as if they eat the healthy stuff.
Mon May 06, 2024 9:52 am
oldkim wrote:Pablo wrote:
I agree on the tomatoes.
I agree on some wheats, for sure USA of any variety.
I don't agree on good, real, high fat cheese.
The point of the video was NOT to say the Med diet is best. I think you skimmed right to that, and even the brit guy says that. The main point of the video is we are omnivores, leaning to carnivore. And ignorant genius vegans have is completely wrong, yet brag as if they eat the healthy stuff.
Let me ask your logical mind
We know that doing the same thing, resulting in the same outcomes is craziness.
We can eat it all but is it working?
For those that have inflammatory diseases, with high blood pressure, with diabetes, who are over weight, are taking multiple meds to treat a whole list of ailments. And are not getting better?
Doing the same thing and it’s not working. The ones getting sicker and more pills…
Then do try a different whole paradyme shift.
Do something totally against what we have all been taught.
Do something radical to change your health.
Because this omnivore, eating carbs nonsense for those of us that are obese, that are on lots of meds and that are struggling even to breath.
Do something different. Chronic disease sucks. It takes you little by little. Like a crab being cooked alive in a pot of cold water and heated slowly.
Are you at that stage of your life you really sick and tired of being tired?
It is a totally different way to look at food and how you eat and what you eat.
Look behind the curtain of all the lies we have been fed over generations now. Are you tired of being tired and fat and sick?
Are you ready to take the “red pill”
To see what it does to you and how you feel?
Eat the fat! Eat meat! Use lots of salt! Use real butter! Take some Iodine supplements beyond what is ADA. Like 1,000 times more!!!
Stop using vegetable oils!
And lastly, yes you can eat high quality cheese.
I literally eat a whole box of cream cheese a day!
If you are “ready”
Read page 1 and the first post of this thread.